Let's discuss the remote gambling bill.

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Let's discuss the remote gambling bill.

Postby NOTNobody » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:52 pm

First of all, I suggest to remove the flag counter on the PokerKaki homepage. Over 200k visitors from Singapore? That's a big red flag to the government to target Poker. Anyway, I've read the bill, ( http://www.parliament.gov.sg/sites/defa ... 3-2014.pdf ) and it's very telling that Poker isn't spared. I am no legal expert but from what I saw, skill game with luck element = gambling...

People who trade in commodities, forex, stocks and shares are all gambling online as well. Because foresight is a skill, but you also need luck for your foresight to become reality.

Since the bill has not been pass down, next sitting is in October. Hopefully there will be amendments or else it will be ridiculous. The penalty for such a quasi-crime is hefty. More so than corruption ( http://www.parliament.gov.sg/sites/defa ... 1-2014.pdf ) - page 27 section 44 point 3

and voluntarily causing hurt ( http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/d ... %3A0;rec=0 ), punishment of not more than $5,000 or 2 years imprisonment or both, and if it's by provocation, then punishment will be no more than $2,500 or 3 months imprisonment or both.

In comparison, the penalty for remote gambling? It's view more serious than...

Punishment for act which endangers life or the personal safety of others
336. Whoever does any act so rashly or negligently as to endanger human life or the personal safety of others, shall be punished —
(a)
in the case of a rash act, with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 6 months, or with fine which may extend to $2,500, or with both; or
(b)
in the case of a negligent act, with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 months, or with fine which may extend to $1,500, or with both.

Causing hurt by an act which endangers life or the personal safety of others
337. Whoever causes hurt to any person by doing any act so rashly or negligently as to endanger human life or the personal safety of others, shall be punished —
(a)
in the case of a rash act, with imprisonment for a term which may extend to one year, or with fine which may extend to $5,000, or with both; or
(b)
in the case of a negligent act, with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 6 months, or with fine which may extend to $2,500, or with both.

Causing grievous hurt by an act which endangers life or the personal safety of others
338. Whoever causes grievous hurt to any person by doing any act so rashly or negligently as to endanger human life or the personal safety of others, shall be punished —
(a)
in the case of a rash act, with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 4 years, or with fine which may extend to $10,000, or with both; or
(b)
in the case of a negligent act, with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years, or with fine which may extend to $5,000, or with both.

To make this bill sound even more ridiculous...

“gambling”
means all or any of the following:

(a) betting;
(b) gaming;
(c) participating in a lottery;

“game of chance” includes —
(a) a game that involves both an element of chance and an
element of skill; or

(b) a game that is presented as involving an element of
chance, but does not include any game, method, device, scheme or
competition specified or described by the Minister, by order in
the Gazette, as not to be a game of chance for the purposes of this Act;

“gaming”
means playing a game of chance for money or money’s worth;

2) For the purposes of this Act, a person plays a game of chance if
the person participates in a game of chance whether or not there are
other participants in the game of chance, and whether or not a
computer generates images or data taken to represent the actions of
other participants in the game of chance.

(3) To avoid doubt, a person plays a game of chance for money or money’s worth if the person plays a game of chance and thereby acquires a chance of winning any money or money’s worth, whether or not the person risks losing anything at the game.

Goodbye Hearthstone (you need skills to be good and nice top deck qualifies for luck). Goodbye Maplestory (you need skills to dodge hits and luck to score critical hits. If you picked up any rare items that others are selling for real money, it's money's worth). Goodbye Diablo3 (same with Maplestory). Goodbye World of Warcraft (same with Diablo3). In fact, all MMORPG are now remote gambling. Clash of Clans would also fall into this act if not amended. So goodbye Blizzcon and WCG.
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