The Turn Blocking Bet

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The Turn Blocking Bet

Postby felixleong » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:16 pm

PokerStars Game #19137439662: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/07/27 - 07:58:48 (ET)
Table 'Colocolo' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Hefaistos13 ($62.10 in chips)
Seat 2: pipi486 ($96.50 in chips)
Seat 3: severz22 ($99 in chips)
Seat 4: fishnchip99 ($97 in chips)
Seat 5: Aset63 ($103.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Dobert4ever ($100 in chips)
Aset63: posts small blind $0.50
Dobert4ever: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pipi486 [Jh Ah]
Hefaistos13: folds
pipi486: raises $3 to $4
severz22: folds
fishnchip99: calls $4
Aset63: folds
Dobert4ever: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks 7d 9h]
pipi486: bets $6

A very dry board, good for continuation bet of 1/3 to 2/3 pot as villain will often fold without the King

fishnchip99: calls $6

His call looks very much like a king, maybe a with a weak king playing it passively or maybe a strong king but trying to keep the pot small.
A set of 77 or 99 trapping me is possible but less likely

*** TURN *** [Ks 7d 9h] [3h]

Catching a flushdraw to the nuts is great but the major difficulty here is still being out of position.
I still have no idea of how strong my opponent hand here is, I can expect a fold, a raise or a call if I make a bet here.
Checking is just too weak here as it gives the opponent full control on giving me a very bad pot odds to draw on to my nuts ( example villain betting pot size ) and still not knowing his hand strength

Here I have a few goals
1) see my river card cheaply
2) find out how my hand stands, just how strong he is
3) Not getting pushed out of the pot

A ~1/3 size bet here balances my objective
1) if he is really weak and folds then great.
2) if he calls, I'm still getting great odds with my outs
3) if he raises, I'm very sure that I'm either against a set or a strong king and can call knowing that I'll probably get paid off pretty well on the river if I hit

pipi486: bets $6
fishnchip99: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Ks 7d 9h 3h] [4h]
pipi486: bets $16
fishnchip99: folds

Probably a weak king or a mid pair like 88 or 66
Busted straight draw like 8Ts or 68s might also had been possible but rare

Uncalled bet ($16) returned to pipi486
pipi486 collected $31.90 from pot
pipi486: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $33.50 | Rake $1.60
Board [Ks 7d 9h 3h 4h]
Seat 1: Hefaistos13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pipi486 collected ($31.90)
Seat 3: severz22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: fishnchip99 (button) folded on the River
Seat 5: Aset63 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Dobert4ever (big blind) folded before Flop
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Re: The Turn Blocking Bet

Postby support » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:01 am

Hmm good idea... i've been betting with BB instead of the pot (often to my disadvantage).. Thx for the tip.
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Re: The Turn Blocking Bet

Postby vaevictis » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:40 pm

good to use aganist weakish type players.

At higher levels, consider balancing your betsizes across your entire range of hands that would bet on the turn. Why?

Aganist tougher players who can raise your weak block bet with air, you are not playing correctly by calling his raise and then getting the right odds to pay off (when you hit your made hand) cus he can have air.

Just another consideration
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