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Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby DM101 » Fri May 10, 2013 10:42 pm

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SINGAPORE: The government is studying measures that can be taken against online gambling, and to restrict access to -- as well as patronage of -- online gambling platforms. It is working with industry experts to study issues and learn from other jurisdictions to formulate a strategy.

The study is expected to be concluded by the end of 2013.

Second Minister for Home Affairs S Iswaran revealed this at the Casino Regulatory Authority's (CRA) workplan on Friday.

He said: "The global online gambling industry, estimated at US$400 billion in 2011, is expected to grow at an annual rate of nine per cent, with the Asian market representing a significant growth opportunity.

"Online gambling is a new and potentially more addictive form of gambling, with greater access to the young and vulnerable. These risks will likely be magnified as the technology supporting online gambling further evolves."

Mr Iswaran, who is also a Minister in the Prime Minister's Office, noted that there are concerns within the Singapore community over social risks associated with online gambling as it is highly accessible, and that the government shares these concerns.

Meanwhile, in a Facebook post, Mr Iswaran said a concerted effort by government agencies and community partners is needed to tackle online gambling on multiple fronts, including public education, engagement and enforcement.

Mr Iswaran said the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) will be working closely with the police, Media Development Authority, Monetary Authority of Singapore and the Ministry of Social and Family Development on the study.

The study will assess the efficacy and feasibility of implementing the measures, and whether it will require amendments to current laws or even new legislation.

As to whether the CRA will be responsible for regulating online gambling, Mr Iswaran it is too early to draw conclusions as to what role CRA or any other agency will play in this effort.

He said MHA would want to give its officials time to study the matter thoroughly and consult relevant stakeholders before proposing specific action.

Separately, CRA noted that the incidence of crime in the casinos here is under control.

Over the past three years, crime reported in the casinos made up less than one per cent of overall crime in Singapore.

Since 2010, the casinos have detected and stopped more than 28,000 attempts by minors, and some 15,000 attempts by excluded persons, to enter the casinos.

The CRA will also work with the Home Team Behavioural Sciences Centre to examine the psychological profile of local casino gamblers to develop a more nuanced understanding of gaming behaviour.

source: CNA
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Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby DM101 » Fri May 10, 2013 10:47 pm

Seems like ur days are numbered.... :( :( :( :(

I would like to hear what are the kakis opinions in regards to this matter.

Let's discuss more about this topic.
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby tidusswords » Fri May 10, 2013 10:57 pm

is this going to include online poker? GG. i think the government just wants people to go to the casinos instead so that they can earn more money
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby DM101 » Fri May 10, 2013 11:22 pm

tidusswords wrote:is this going to include online poker? GG. i think the government just wants people to go to the casinos instead so that they can earn more money


That's absolutely a valid reason for them to do so. :roll:
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby 2RandomCards » Sat May 11, 2013 1:22 am

From the sound of it though, their intentions may be aimed directly at online soccer betting, rather than poker...we're just sadly classified as degen together with the soccer bettors. "Wagering cash...gambling...whether skill is involved or not etc." of course. Nothing new.

Or, they just wanna be like the States & crack down on anything and everything if they can, to show that they're working.

If our beloved online play is affected, we're only gonna get screwed over aren't we?

When the availability of live games decline, players would turn to online games. Also, if online play is completely cut off, would it not just lead to an increase in demand for live games; perhaps even the not-too-legal ones? Just like the States right? (Imagine future lame shit stories of "undercover" officers busting 2 raked .5/.5 games while conducting an island-wide raid, confiscating a TOTAL of $2,000 cash and some gaming paraphernalia. Big bust. Well done. So worth the effort.)

Not everyone is rolled for 5/10 & above, which is why there would still be a high demand for games ranging from 0.02/0.05 online all the way up to 2/2/5 live. If online micros are gone from sg, not only would micro players have to put more money on the line to play cash games, there would be more home games too; whether they're legal or not. Not to mention less hands per hour, one table a night even perhaps and all that stuff.

And of course, fewer or no STTs and MTTs left to play. If online poker is gone from sg, there goes the growth of tourney play in sg. STTs, MTTs, oh yes and the less popular ones like O, O8, Stud, Stud8, Razz, Lowball etc. will all DIE in sg. :'(

I don't personally know anyone in Home Team Behavioral Sciences but I believe that they're looking at the wrong people. Local casino gamblers are unlikely to share the same characteristics as online gamblers and poker players in terms of their lifestyle habits, don't you think? The civil servants studying this issue may not note that there are different demographics of players at different stakes and just look at the same old things like SES (socio-economic status), age, earning/spending power, and other characteristics. By not considering dissecting the gamblers or poker players according to the stakes at which these games are being played (data which would obviously be unobtainable by conducting surveys or from our favorite Rational Group or perhaps even soccer betting sites), and by focusing on casino goers and 5/10 or higher players, naturally their data will be badly skewed. Recreational players, casual players etc. would not be taken into consideration as much as blackjack and slot machine players. My question is, how do you compare the average tertiary full-time student or NSF to middle-aged white-collar workers or executive expats or retirees with money growing in a bank? Tio bo?

But I guess we're just too small a part of the local population to matter to them eh?

For sports betting, which I am completely unfamiliar with, probably better odds at sg pools may help curb illegal bookmaking? Or, allow licensed places to be open to taking bets at controlled odds?

What amazes me is that this fun, competitive sport of skill and wits can actually be perceived as an alternative to turn to for degenerates, just because money is being wagered. It's precisely people who think this way that we wish to play against, and extract max value from, no?

(P.S. Sorry for the long post. Only spewed so much because I'm on tilt. Cheers :) )
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby tidusswords » Sat May 11, 2013 11:20 am

2RandomCards wrote:
What amazes me is that this fun, competitive sport of skill and wits can actually be perceived as an alternative to turn to for degenerates, just because money is being wagered. It's precisely people who think this way that we wish to play against, and extract max value from, no?

(P.S. Sorry for the long post. Only spewed so much because I'm on tilt. Cheers :) )


unfortunately we cant play against and extract max value from the government. lol
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby mugiwara84 » Sat May 11, 2013 11:58 am

Just found that pokerstars.com blocked by MDA le. Need VPN to bypass
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby tiltedonk » Sat May 11, 2013 3:07 pm

mugiwara84 wrote:Just found that pokerstars.com blocked by MDA le. Need VPN to bypass


which ISP are u using?
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby Brasstal » Sat May 11, 2013 4:21 pm

It's really interesting that we get caught up in this spillover effect. In my humble opinion though, they are studying ways so nothing is really concrete yet. The article does point out how the countries ban Poker but they fail to point out how they legalized them. They mentioned the USA, France etc, and yet france has successfully regulated Poker there.

The USA also have been legalizing (or beginning to) poker on the state level. The first real money hand site in Nevada was launched couple of days ago.

Hopefully the "studies" the government do will take into account the legalizing of poker and better yet perhaps the legalizing of gaming as a whole. Who knows what will happen by the end of the year? I hope somehow this team of researchers reach out to me or us for our opinions on this matter and we can give our side of things and how the government can benefit. =)
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby DM101 » Sat May 11, 2013 5:22 pm

mugiwara84 wrote:Just found that pokerstars.com blocked by MDA le. Need VPN to bypass


I called your bluff mugi ;)

Brasstal wrote:It's really interesting that we get caught up in this spillover effect. In my humble opinion though, they are studying ways so nothing is really concrete yet. The article does point out how the countries ban Poker but they fail to point out how they legalized them. They mentioned the USA, France etc, and yet france has successfully regulated Poker there.

The USA also have been legalizing (or beginning to) poker on the state level. The first real money hand site in Nevada was launched couple of days ago.

Hopefully the "studies" the government do will take into account the legalizing of poker and better yet perhaps the legalizing of gaming as a whole. Who knows what will happen by the end of the year? I hope somehow this team of researchers reach out to me or us for our opinions on this matter and we can give our side of things and how the government can benefit. =)


This is the US site that Bryan was talking about.

http://UltimatePoker.com

Yeah, certainly hope that the researchers will reach out to us for opinions.
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby realgold » Sat May 11, 2013 5:44 pm

that's bad news hopefully Malaysia won't follow.
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby philivey » Sat May 11, 2013 7:07 pm

we will have at least till the end of this year before any actions will be taken or announced, but i do not think they would take measures to ban online poker as their priority, they are more concerned about betting sites like betfair and ladbrokes :roll:
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Re: Singapore government is banning online gambling sites

Postby davidfrost » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:21 pm

By the way guys, any news yet if the Singaporean government is considering to reconsider this?
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