POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

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POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby Lynn » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:46 pm

hi guys...IR will be ready in a matter of months...do u think the casino will have tons of poker action or are we gonna live with things like carribean stud poker??

has anyone played at other sands casinos? what is the setup like? omaha and texas available?
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby felixleong » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:59 am

Yes, I'm 90% sure there will be texas hold em, probably a small room for it but unfortunately its going be the side dish and not the main attraction. Casino games will be the main as they are a ton more profitable.

Nowadays even casinos near us have poker, like genting and long jie cruise~ so it seems to be asia has really began to pick up on the poker bug which is good news for you, me and everyone else in this forum ^_^

What I do hope is that they outsource their poker room management to professionals like pokerstars or at least tie up with them and seek consultation and advise from them. I think singapore will be a good place as the hub of asia poker since we are english speaking country, running major tournaments like APPT main event in singapore seems a lot more classy then running it at macau right?
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby Afternoon » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:07 pm

Just like Macau Venetian and Macau Sands, there will be no poker room initially. You can play at Resort World in which they have the PokerPro machines or table game against the banker [As] [Ah] .

It will take them at least half to 1 year to introduce their own poker room according to demand. Thing can speed up up if Pokerstars start talking to them regard to Poker room or Big Scale Tournaments.

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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby 89suited » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:28 pm

As far as i can remember, back in Jun 2008, there wasn't poker available in Sands, Macau..
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby ankurk » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:36 am

i dont thin Sands/ Venetian still have texas. Last I know they had NL Hold'em at Wynn, Lisboa, Waldo and Star World. Unless it has improved in last couple of months
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Postby Integrity » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:58 am

Was in Macau two weekends ago - Poker at Starworld, Wynns, and Grand Lisboa. The Grand Lisboa is run by POkerstars and works pretty well. As well as the table action they have a daily tournament with varying buyins. The dealers are new and learning but essentially understand the game and the job. They can tell when an error is something that actually makes a difference to the game and when someone is just making a fuss over nothing.

Wynns has a very nice poker room - but waiting lists whenever i ventured by. I suffered a bad beat at Starworld and of course, never went back.
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby XsenseX » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:26 pm

Do we, Singaporeans need to pay the '$150' entry fee?

If so, its quite an issue when you are going in with a 5 friends ...

Its like paying almost a thousand dollars for no reason...
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Postby Lynn » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:58 pm

paying 150 to enter is quite ex lor...
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Postby felixleong » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:21 pm

if your balls big enough just borrow passport from Malaysian friends lor then no need to pay liao ^_^
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby Integrity » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:07 am

$150 to enter?? Serious? Cheaper to catch a helicopter to Genting!
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Postby felixleong » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:17 am

$150 you can find a hot chick to shiok shiok liao leh
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby ohboy » Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:57 am

Lynn wrote:paying 150 to enter is quite ex lor...



the 150 fee was a suggestion

there were other suggestions also raised to keep singaporeans out.

Somehow everyone decided this was the rule.
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby vicx1234 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:59 pm

XsenseX wrote:Do we, Singaporeans need to pay the '$150' entry fee?

If so, its quite an issue when you are going in with a 5 friends ...

Its like paying almost a thousand dollars for no reason...


It's actually S$100 per entry per person "for every consecutive period of 24 hrs". Dunno if that means you can't stay more than 24hrs everytime you pay the S$100! Otherwise, if you're a god of gambler you can just pay S$100, camp der for a week or more and then exit with your thousands.

There's actually also a YEARLY membership which costs a lump sum of S$2000. This means you can go in and out of the casino as you please!

But you're right, it's still very bo hua to pay them so much just to go inside. Hopefully if the economy continues to go down next year, they'll revise the law in order to attract more "local investment".

Anyway, theses are legal provisions as seen in the Casino Control Act if you wanna go look it up.
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Re: POKER IN SINGAPORE IR MARINA SANDS

Postby statix » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:15 pm

It's amazing how ppl just make things up. $150 and then $1000.

Here's the act, reproduced directly from gov site:
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_getdata.pl?actno=2007-REVED-33A&doctitle=CASINO%20CONTROL%20ACT%0A&date=latest&method=part&sl=1&segid=1193731951-002660#1193731951-003140

Division 4 — Entry to casino premises

Right of entry to casino premises
115. Except as provided by sections 118 and 119, a person enters and remains on any casino premises only by the licence of the casino operator.

Entry levy
116. —(1) Subject to subsection (3), a casino operator shall not allow any person who is a citizen or permanent resident of Singapore to enter or remain on the casino premises at any time on any day unless the person has paid to the casino operator an entry levy of ––

(a) $100 (inclusive of goods and services tax) for every consecutive period of 24 hours; or

(b) $2,000 (inclusive of goods and services tax) for a valid annual membership of the casino.

(2) All entry levies collected by a casino operator under subsection (1) shall be paid to the Singapore Totalisator Board within the prescribed time and shall be used by that Board for public, social or charitable purposes in Singapore.

(3) A casino operator shall not refund, remit or reimburse, directly or indirectly, any entry levy paid or payable by any person under subsection (1).

(4) The Minister may, after the expiration of 10 years commencing from the date on which a second site for a casino is designated by an order made under section 2(2), by order published in the Gazette, vary the entry levies specified in subsection (1).

(5) This section shall not apply to ––

(a) any employee of the casino;

(b) any inspector, police officer, officer of the Central Narcotics Bureau or Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau, civil defence officer, officer of the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore or employee of the Authority acting in the discharge of his duties; or

(c) such other person or class of persons as may be prescribed.

(6) Subject to subsection (5), any citizen or permanent resident of Singapore who enters any casino premises without paying the entry levy specified in subsection (1) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000, and shall also be liable for the amount of the entry levy specified in subsection (1) (a).

(7) Any casino operator who contravenes subsection (1), (2) or (3) shall be liable to disciplinary action.

(8) Section 147 shall apply in relation to late payment of the entry levy as it applies to the casino tax, and the reference to casino tax in that section shall be read as a reference to the entry levy.

(9) In this Part, “permanent resident of Singapore” means a person who is granted an entry permit under section 10 (1) of the Immigration Act (Cap. 133) or a re-entry permit under section 11 of that Act, which allows him to remain in Singapore indefinitely without restriction.

Supplementary provisions relating to entry levy
117. —(1) The entry levy payable under section 116 (1) shall be levied, paid and collected by such method as may be prescribed.

(2) The Chief Executive may require a casino operator to lodge with the Authority such security as the Chief Executive may consider appropriate for the payment of entry levies.

(3) Entry levies shall be recoverable from a casino operator as a civil debt due to the Government.

(4) It shall be lawful for the Chief Executive, if it is proved to his satisfaction that any money has been overpaid as entry levy under this Act, to direct the refund of the money so overpaid, such refund to be paid from entry levies collected under section 116 (1).

(5) No refund under subsection (4) shall be allowed unless a claim in respect thereof is made within 6 months of the overpayment.

(6) Where for any reason the entry levy payable under section 116 (1) has not been paid, or has been short paid, or the whole or any part of the entry levy, after having been paid, has, owing to any cause, been erroneously refunded, the person liable to pay such levy, or the person to whom the refund has been erroneously made, as the case may be, shall pay the entry levy not paid or short paid, or the amount erroneously refunded to him, on demand being made by the Chief Executive, within 6 months of the date of the non-payment, or short payment, or erroneous refund, as the case may be, without prejudice to any other remedy for the recovery of the amount unpaid or erroneously refunded.

(7) For the purposes of this section and section 116, every casino operator shall be liable for every act, omission, neglect or default of any agent or employee employed by him and acting within the scope of his employment, as fully and effectually as if the act, omission, neglect or default were done or committed by the casino operator.

(8) Nothing in this section shall affect the liability of the agent or employee of a casino operator.
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