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Asian Poker School

Postby Brasstal » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:33 pm

Hi Guys,

Just trying to get a feeler out and find out how many guys are interested.

This is a collaboration with some of the biggest online poker players in the Low and Mid Levels to conduct lessons and set up Poker Schools all over Asia. The way lessons are conducted will be hands on and you can get to watch these pro's play up to 26 tables at once and ask questions at the same time on why and how they play certain hands.

They are thinking of setting up a school in your community but I told them the demand for online poker might not be that great. Although many would cite the reasons of not having the feel of chips or the felt, I sincerely think that many players are not great online players. After all who wouldn't love to do something they are making tonnes of money at right?

Back to the basic question is, what do the kaki's here think of the idea to set up a Poker school in your community. Will anyone be really interested ? The Players, and investors are only interested to set one up here if there is a demand for players to become really good and devote many hours daily to playing online and becoming the best.

Will really appreciate all the thoughts you have.
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Re: Asian Poker School - Singapore

Postby felixleong » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:37 pm

There is demand in singapore but really depends on how you reach out to those players and the pricing of your fees.
Probably need to do more marketing research on this area I guess?
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby Brasstal » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:04 pm

Im so on tilt i wrote an entire long reply but it disappeared.

Im gonna start again:

First of all there is no pricing of fees. My thoughts are instead of focusing on what people will gain try focusing more on what you as an individual has to gain.

let me share what I know:

The business side of things is that its based on affiliate trackers to make its money. They have good connections with many sites and players don't have to worry about that.

Basically they teach you how to play poker, no strings attached. Its really on the community and I have personally visited many of their poker schools in various countries and will share what I have seen.

They have players who stay with the pros to watch, learn and grind with them. They live there and improve greatly as a community. There is usually a resident pro or a few more who lives there full time. They have like 10 computers with 30+" inch screens and there are a few regulars who walk in because of the entire environment which is totally conducive to playng and learning.

They tilt - less there, have on hand advice from so many better and experienced players, and they are able to treat it like a job and Poker office. Walking in to work, and walking out to leave everything poker related behind.

Anyway enough of seeming to selling this idea, my main point is really, just to find out how interested the players in the community are to this. Because it really did help improve my game, and just trying to find out if anyone else is interested in playing online more regularly.

Most importantly, i think its for the best interest of everyone to play this game well because Poker is becoming such an enjoyable sport. Just bringing this idea here because I hope players see and know that being a skill game, they have much room for improvement. Play the game for fun but do not lose ur pants at it!

Please share your views!
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Re: Asian Poker School - Singapore

Postby Orgrey » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:54 pm

I think its a fabulous idea - but whats the fee like for something like this? If its as you said free, then fantastic!

Especially there being a community here, its good to share knowledge, playing styles...mebbe one day someone from singapore might win a major poker tournament....
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby Brasstal » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:00 pm

Haha but I personally do not think the majority of the "players" from Sg are ready to take the plunge to take on Poker as a Full time profession thus, they will not bother putting in the hours...

I think it boils down to the passion. Despite poker becoming a very popular pasttime and hobby in Singapore , I think a majority of people are not really interested in improving their game...
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Re: Asian Poker School - Singapore

Postby Nicefingers » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:15 am

I believe this idea is very feasible in the coming years. Not now though.

Like you said, majority of the people is not ready/can devote the time and effort to become a good online full time pro-player because the prospect is very vague yet and asians are more conservatives on their future career.

However once the IRs are open and poker rooms are established and running, there will be more exposure of poker to the people and parents that its not gambling and can actually make a very good living out of it as a profession. But right now, poker is still seen as gambling to most parents. If the players don't get support from their parents, i doubt it will work at all.

Just take Korea's craze about Starcraft for example. Their parents allow their kids to play and become pro players because the prospect is there to make a living out of playing full time.
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby Brasstal » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:26 am

Thats true and the poker school idea does indeed work very well in Korea.

Hopefully there will be players out there who are looking to improve their game especially in the online area. I really do notice that there are hardly any online Singaporean players!

What about khakis from other countries?

Am I right to say Singaporeans will definitely come by to check out the school, see what they have to learn and then disappear to their own world? Thats the Singaporean spirit right... Poker is a very enjoyable game for Singaporeans after all and i guess many players prefer to play it their way :)
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby holypendant » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:44 pm

hi.. i very like this idea. but if singapore were to have an office and haf people day in and out walk in to play poker online, wont it kana raid?

seriously if i wanted to join, how much money do i have to put in. and whats the fee. i'm actually grinding 6 hours a day from mon to fri play at 0.02/0.04. i guess if the fees is low and starting capital is $500 or below, i think alot teenage/young adults will join.

I'm interested too btw.....
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby newbie » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:25 pm

i'm very interested. need a conducive environment to play and learn. i think once most ppl get that, they'll prolly be motivated by success/progress and keep moving up.

my friend once told me 'embrace the stigma of poker in singapore' and well yeah it's very applicable in the local community.
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby Brasstal » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:22 pm

I guess the use of the term Poker School has the idea that it will have hundreds of students and classes are conducted textbook style..

it is no where near what you guys think at all.. although they call it a school i think in my view its more like a select club

where people with the same interests come together to improve their poker game and confide and find comfort with each other through their tales of bad beats and great plays

I guess if it really gets up in your community they will give the best advice on bankroll management and whats a healthy way/approach to the game without going broke. I think it will do nothing but benefit the local card community because it ensures the community benefits as a whole!

Any current kaki's used to play online or are currently playing online? May I ask what levels did they use to, or are currently playing at and what are the pros and cons they think comes hand in hand with their foray into playing poker against global competition on the internet?
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby holypendant » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:09 pm

Bryan, so is it free? i'm playing at NL2.. trying to build up so i can play higher limits. it will be great if the whole clubhouse is grinding all together..

1st: you will be motivated and psyc-up.
2nd: there will be people to advice us.


But, will there be charges? or minimum capital invested in order to be in this school.
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby Lo0o0o0n » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:35 pm

online wise...i think singapore is not there yet...turning pro wise...i think singapore is so far away it probably cannot even be seen yet...

the culture in singapore is as such...relli sad actually...singapore juz does not encourage anything tt deviates from going to pri sch -> sec sch -> JC/Poly -> univeristy -> office job...tts y singapore suck in everything else except academics...we suck in theatre, dance, music, sports, etc...no funding, no support...so we suck...and poker is also like tt...we all juz take everything as a hobby...and nthing else...onli studying is not to be taken as a hobby

so as of now...i relli think there issnt but a handful who believe that they can turn pro online...fortunately/unfortunately im one of the handful who actually sees the feasibility in it all to grind online professionally...

if ure talking abt demand from the local poker community being enough for the poker school to break even or even be profitable...i would say...at this moment...quite impossible...most players here already have a fulltime job and juz play poker recreationally...there issnt a casino here and the 'legal' home games juz doesnt cut it for a steady income....and also online wise...many are still very skeptic on the whole idea that poker can be played online despite its recent exposure...many outside pple and even poker players can ask me "how come u can play poker online one?...cannot even see who u playing wif.."

However, what i can see now is...if u do set up this poker community that does this daily grinding and it starts of wif the small handful of passionate player with the hope and belief that it is all possible...and it is successful...i believe the word will spread arnd...and fast as well...tts wat singapore is famous for...so....i think u might have to start wif a -ve investment at first and look to build up the whole thing in the long run...probably alot more feasible that way...if not...i guess singapore juz keep seeing poker the way it is and has been for the past years....

Bryan...maybe u can start a poll here to see how many players actually see themselves trying to be an online grinder seriously...and this will be a simple market demand survey for the poker school....coz i think first of all...recreational players would not be ur target market (or would it?)..and also...i relli think if the success of ur poker school takes off wif the results of the pros shooting up...i think its juz a matter of time before the words spread arnd and players in singapore actually begin to believe that online poker is possible...

for one u can count on me to giv ur poker school the support it needs...one more year for school onli....then the door are wide open for me...trying for online grinder shud be my first stop...and hopefully...my onli stop...haaaa =)

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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby newbie » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:58 pm

the concept is a bit lost on me. you said it'd be a select club so what's your target audience? and to what extent is the exclusivity? i mean you said that it'd be a select club yet it'll benefit the whole community. that's where i'm kinda confused.
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Re: Asian Poker School

Postby Brasstal » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:04 pm

Basically what i mean is that from what I see its not any Tom dick or harry can walk in to play and learn, it'll only be people who know about it.

And the community who knows about it will benefit. There isnt like intense selection as far as what i know... Im really not sure of the complete details but what i was trying to say is that, there isn't an intense criteria to be selected but it will be exclusive to the poker community.
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