Pocket Kings cannot play one.

[MJFX]

Pockets Kings often crippled me or bust me out more often than not.. Here are a few hands for this month. so far KK is my 2nd biggest loss starting hand in my stats.. what am i doing wrong? But Daniel Negreanu said in his book "you should never feel ashamed of going broke with KK before the flop. folding KK before the flop when no one had the AA is a statistical nightmare. so far, its a statisical nightmare for me. PokerStars Game #32742705665: Tournament #193236116, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/09/12 15:04:58 CCT [2009/09/12 3:04:58 ET] Table '193236116 19' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: belkis queen (3000 in chips) Seat 2: dilligaf888 (2980 in chips) Seat 3: tangotarzan (2870 in chips) Seat 4: MJFX (3230 in chips) Seat 5: davethedave2 (2980 in chips) Seat 6: For293 (3000 in chips) Seat 7: Jazz604 (3000 in chips) Seat 8: sinrostro (2960 in chips) Seat 9: CasinoLord (2980 in chips) davethedave2: posts small blind 10 For293: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to MJFX [ ] Jazz604: folds sinrostro: folds CasinoLord: folds belkis queen: raises 60 to 80 dilligaf888: calls 80 tangotarzan: folds MJFX: raises 100 to 180 davethedave2: folds For293: folds belkis queen: calls 100 dilligaf888: raises 2800 to 2980 and is all-in MJFX: raises 250 to 3230 and is all-in belkis queen: folds Uncalled bet (250) returned to MJFX *** FLOP *** [Ac Ts 3h] *** TURN *** [Ac Ts 3h] *** RIVER *** [Ac Ts 3h Qd] *** SHOW DOWN *** dilligaf888: shows [Qs Qh] (three of a kind, Queens) MJFX: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings) dilligaf888 collected 6170 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 6170 | Rake 0 Board [Ac Ts 3h Qd 9s] Seat 1: belkis queen folded before Flop Seat 2: dilligaf888 showed [Qs Qh] and won (6170) with three of a kind, Queens Seat 3: tangotarzan folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: MJFX (button) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings Seat 5: davethedave2 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: For293 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: Jazz604 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: sinrostro folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: CasinoLord folded before Flop (didn't bet) PokerStars Game #32473036564: Tournament #192716879, $1+$0 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (4000/8000) - 2009/09/05 22:32:10 CCT [2009/09/05 10:32:10 ET] Table '192716879 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: MJFX (80965 in chips) Seat 3: vlaviusz (200370 in chips) Seat 4: milapanda (88791 in chips) Seat 5: mark6529 (135800 in chips) Seat 6: zeobra (60600 in chips) Seat 7: ThxToffies (146940 in chips) Seat 8: toons79 (27388 in chips) Seat 9: esoxus (45460 in chips) MJFX: posts the ante 1600 vlaviusz: posts the ante 1600 milapanda: posts the ante 1600 mark6529: posts the ante 1600 zeobra: posts the ante 1600 ThxToffies: posts the ante 1600 toons79: posts the ante 1600 esoxus: posts the ante 1600 vlaviusz: posts small blind 4000 milapanda: posts big blind 8000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to MJFX [Kc Kh] mark6529: folds zeobra: folds ThxToffies: folds toons79: raises 17788 to 25788 and is all-in KEILER68 is connected esoxus: folds MJFX: raises 17788 to 43576 vlaviusz: folds milapanda: folds Uncalled bet (17788) returned to MJFX *** FLOP *** [6c Js Jc] *** TURN *** [6c Js Jc] *** RIVER *** [6c Js Jc 4h] *** SHOW DOWN *** toons79: shows [3s 3d] (a full house, Threes full of Jacks) MJFX: shows [Kc Kh] (two pair, Kings and Jacks) toons79 collected 76376 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 76376 | Rake 0 Board [6c Js Jc 4h 3h] Seat 1: MJFX (button) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks Seat 3: vlaviusz (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: milapanda (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: mark6529 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: zeobra folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: ThxToffies folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: toons79 showed [3s 3d] and won (76376) with a full house, Threes full of Jacks Seat 9: esoxus folded before Flop (didn't bet) PokerStars Game #32484855176: Tournament #200909006, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2009/09/06 3:43:21 CCT [2009/09/05 15:43:21 ET] Table '200909006 671' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: dmytro1 (54210 in chips) Seat 2: BasilAnochin (28619 in chips) Seat 3: slainew (39356 in chips) Seat 4: cipher_23 (106510 in chips) Seat 5: LE|F (62998 in chips) Seat 6: Burnunu (28698 in chips) Seat 7: alexeipo (76115 in chips) Seat 8: MJFX (13314 in chips) Seat 9: hermanoprimo (352 in chips) dmytro1: posts the ante 400 BasilAnochin: posts the ante 400 slainew: posts the ante 400 cipher_23: posts the ante 400 LE|F: posts the ante 400 Burnunu: posts the ante 400 alexeipo: posts the ante 400 MJFX: posts the ante 400 hermanoprimo: posts the ante 352 and is all-in LE|F: posts small blind 2000 Burnunu: posts big blind 4000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to MJFX [Kc Kd] alexeipo: folds MJFX: raises 8914 to 12914 and is all-in dmytro1: folds BasilAnochin: calls 12914 slainew: folds cipher_23: folds LE|F: folds Burnunu: folds *** FLOP *** [5d Qh Qd] *** TURN *** [5d Qh Qd] *** RIVER *** [5d Qh Qd Ac] *** SHOW DOWN *** MJFX: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Queens) BasilAnochin: shows [Kh Ah] (two pair, Aces and Queens) BasilAnochin collected 32212 from side pot hermanoprimo: shows [7d 9d] (two pair, Queens and Sevens) BasilAnochin collected 3168 from main pot IH8TWOS is connected *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 35380 Main pot 3168. Side pot 32212. | Rake 0 Board [5d Qh Qd Ac 7s] Seat 1: dmytro1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: BasilAnochin showed [Kh Ah] and won (35380) with two pair, Aces and Queens Seat 3: slainew folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: cipher_23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: LE|F (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: Burnunu (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: alexeipo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: MJFX showed [Kc Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens Seat 9: hermanoprimo showed [7d 9d] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens

[chenghao]

fold pocket Kings then

[DM101]

I would suggest you to take a break if you are running bad at your games.

[xcaliblur]

Those are just one of those times when you just shrug your shoulders and move on... You did nothing wrong, going all in with pocket kings preflop is not a bad play, unless you have some strong sense that someone have aces. The examples you show are just the times when you got a bad beat, against statistical odds. So hey dont feel bad

[MJFX]

Chris, you are right. time to take a break...
i was trying to trap..ended a disaster for me at so early of a tourney.

PokerStars Game #32784941884: Tournament #193236167, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/09/13 18:46:52 CCT [2009/09/13 6:46:52 ET]
Table '193236167 36' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: jlbo12 (3245 in chips)
Seat 2: RobbieKS (1655 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: pdogroof (3968 in chips)
Seat 4: Mr Manilla (4620 in chips)
Seat 5: kirill1989pr (2905 in chips)
Seat 6: MJFX (1930 in chips)
Seat 7: cNunzie (3650 in chips)
Seat 8: matthebeast (2627 in chips)
Seat 9: Anarchy86 (5400 in chips)
jlbo12: posts small blind 50
RobbieKS: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MJFX [Kd Ac]
pdogroof: folds
Mr Manilla: folds
kirill1989pr: folds
MJFX: calls 100
cNunzie: folds
matthebeast: raises 300 to 400
Anarchy86: folds
jlbo12: folds
RobbieKS: folds
MJFX: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Ad Kc 6s]
MJFX: checks
matthebeast: bets 600
MJFX: calls 600
*** TURN *** [Ad Kc 6s]
MJFX: bets 400
matthebeast: raises 600 to 1000
MJFX: calls 530 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (70) returned to matthebeast
*** RIVER *** [Ad Kc 6s Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MJFX: shows [Kd Ac] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
matthebeast: shows [Ts Js] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
matthebeast collected 4010 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4010 | Rake 0
Board [Ad Kc 6s Qh 7h]
Seat 1: jlbo12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: RobbieKS (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: pdogroof folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Mr Manilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kirill1989pr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MJFX showed [Kd Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 7: cNunzie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: matthebeast showed [Ts Js] and won (4010) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 9: Anarchy86 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Syrecx]

si beh suay!!!! hahauhauah..

get on with life, shrug it off, no point complaining abt bad beats..first 5 mins can la..after that sian liao!

my 2 cents..

[Afternoon]

Daniel Negreanu said in his book "you should never feel ashamed of going broke with KK before the flop. folding KK before the flop when no one had the AA is a statistical nightmare.

All Poker players are liar and this Daniel Negreanu is one hell of a top professional Poker player, what do yo think ????

HE BLUFFED YOU !! my dear MS.

[Mydral]

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO Dragar ($133.89)
BTN PerPelle ($89.75)
SB killer kiss ($120.99)
BB pescho76 ($23.78)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Dragar is CO
Dragar raises to $2, 1 fold, killer kiss calls $1.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.50, 2 players)
killer kiss bets $4, Dragar calls $4

Turn: ($12.50, 2 players)
killer kiss checks, Dragar bets $9, killer kiss raises to $30, Dragar calls $21

River: ($72.50, 2 players)
killer kiss bets $84.99, Dragar calls $84.99

Final Pot: $242.48
killer kiss shows

Dragar shows


Dragar wins $240.98 ( won +$119.99 )

killer kiss lost -$120.99



I like KK

[MJFX]

halow! this is under the bad beat section leh. whahaha

you like KK (king king) more or KK (killer Kiss) more...
i think the latter right?

[MJFX]

just played in a tourney and saw KK 3 times...
KK cannot play one~

started the tourney early with KK

Hand #33299197652 begins at 2009/09/27
Dealing down cards
Dealt to MJFX [Ks Kh]
kimnet posts the small blind of 10
SharkG987 posts the big blind of 20
Slickoz folds.
martif folds.
MJFX raises to 60.
lavey666111 raises to 300.
ElenaDmitr folds.
witty112 folds.
23Lex calls 300.
kimnet folds.
SharkG987 folds.
MJFX raises to 800.
lavey666111 raises to 2,840, and is all-in.
23Lex folds.
MJFX calls 2,040.
Dealing Flop [3d 6c Ah]
Dealing Turn
Dealing River
MJFX shows [Ks Kh]
MJFX has One Pair, Kings
lavey666111 shows [Kc Kd]
lavey666111 has One Pair, Kings
MJFX wins 3,005
lavey666111 wins 3,005

min raise and no one called..

Hand #33302073288 begins at 2009/09/27
SPACEJAM23 posts the ante of 25
jdh27035 posts the ante of 25
MJFX posts the ante of 25
pokerpask posts the ante of 25
molawguy posts the ante of 25
nanopete posts the ante of 25
phuchan posts the ante of 25
LordHedon posts the ante of 25
vesslaan posts the ante of 25
Dealing down cards
Dealt to MJFX [Kd Kc]
nanopete posts the small blind of 150
phuchan posts the big blind of 300
LordHedon folds.
vesslaan folds.
SPACEJAM23 folds.
jdh27035 folds.
MJFX raises to 600.
pokerpask folds.
molawguy folds.
nanopete folds.
phuchan folds.
MJFX wins 975

This hand crippled me before i got busted out...

PokerStars Game #33302203237: Tournament #196489680, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/09/26 21:17:07 CCT [2009/09/26 9:17:07 ET]
Table '196489680 84' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SPACEJAM23 (22279 in chips)
Seat 2: jdh27035 (9125 in chips)
Seat 3: MJFX (8573 in chips)
Seat 4: pokerpask (12135 in chips)
Seat 5: molawguy (2800 in chips)
Seat 6: nanopete (7175 in chips)
Seat 7: phuchan (4269 in chips)
Seat 8: LordHedon (8279 in chips)
Seat 9: vesslaan (6118 in chips)
SPACEJAM23: posts the ante 50
jdh27035: posts the ante 50
MJFX: posts the ante 50
pokerpask: posts the ante 50
molawguy: posts the ante 50
nanopete: posts the ante 50
phuchan: posts the ante 50
LordHedon: posts the ante 50
vesslaan: posts the ante 50
pokerpask: posts small blind 200
molawguy: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MJFX [Kd Kh]
nanopete: folds
phuchan: calls 400
LordHedon: raises 7829 to 8229 and is all-in
vesslaan: folds
SPACEJAM23: folds
jdh27035: folds
MJFX: calls 8229
pokerpask: folds
molawguy: folds
phuchan: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s Ah 4h]
*** TURN *** [4s Ah 4h]
*** RIVER *** [4s Ah 4h Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LordHedon: shows [Ad Jh] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
MJFX: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
LordHedon collected 17908 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17908 | Rake 0
Board [4s Ah 4h Qd 2h]
Seat 1: SPACEJAM23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jdh27035 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MJFX (button) showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 4: pokerpask (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: molawguy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: nanopete folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: phuchan folded before Flop
Seat 8: LordHedon showed [Ad Jh] and won (17908) with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 9: vesslaan folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[dsasdfg]

MJFX, you should go and play in Redkings. At least they give you bonus for bad beat pocket red kings. haha..

[gampo]

I believe you shouldn't play result poker. the good play is to play the KK preflop. However I would fold if there was a fourth reraise all-in

[MJFX]

i agree with you that should play KK preflop.
but i would never fold to any re-raise or all in. (bubble depends)
objective for me is to get as many chips as possible into the pot. Yes, someone can have aces (very remote) but i would still have 17 to 18% chance to win.

[MJFX]

Haven been playing poker for quite a while as have super busy schedule past 1-2 weeks.
my very 1st hand playing steps...my least favourite pocket kings. lol.


PokerStars Game #34139078006: Tournament #204432722, 500FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/17 17:57:38 CCT [2009/10/17 5:57:38 ET]
Table '204432722 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: My Boy Aiden (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: moneymilchi (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: Maizeruba (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: Dan O Gajo (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: MASTERONE187 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Mackerel1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Condor444 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: partyboy-x (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: MJFX (1500 in chips)
moneymilchi: posts small blind 10
Maizeruba: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MJFX [Kd Ks]
Dan O Gajo has timed out
Dan O Gajo: folds
Dan O Gajo is sitting out
MASTERONE187: folds
Mackerel1: folds
Condor444: raises 60 to 80
partyboy-x: calls 80
MJFX: raises 1420 to 1500 and is all-in (decides to try something funny..like a maniac, hopefully one of them make a donk call.)
My Boy Aiden: folds
moneymilchi: folds
Maizeruba: folds
Condor444: calls 1420 and is all-in
partyboy-x: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 9c 5c]
*** TURN *** [Td 9c 5c]
*** RIVER *** [Td 9c 5c 7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Condor444: shows [Ac Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
MJFX: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
Condor444 collected 3110 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3110 | Rake 0
Board [Td 9c 5c 7c Qc]
Seat 1: My Boy Aiden (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: moneymilchi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Maizeruba (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Dan O Gajo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MASTERONE187 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Mackerel1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Condor444 showed [Ac Ah] and won (3110) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: partyboy-x folded before Flop
Seat 9: MJFX showed [Kd Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

what can i say?