was it a right Call maths wise?

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was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby Froggy » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:14 pm

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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Hero (BTN): $24.61
SB: $4.25
BB: $25.35
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $5.00
MP1: $16.86
MP2: $34.74
CO: $24.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with [Kc] [Jd]
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35) [3s] [Jh] [2h] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.85) [3c] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, MP1 raises to $7.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($19.85) [6c] (2 players)
MP1 bets $7.11 all in, Hero calls $7.11



villian limps EP, folded arnd to me so i make it $1 to go with KJ os, hoping to pick up the pot right there. flop comes and i hit TPGK, value bet.

villian check raises turn when 3 paired board but i didnt put him on a 3 because he limped & called a raise pre. I was only worried abt him hitting a small set like deuces.

called the river shove anyway cuz of his inconsistent behaviours + pot odds.
good call/bad call?

p.s. i'm acually looking for a maths genius so that i know my equity here.. e.g. % faced with busted flush draws, % i'm WA/WB. thanks!
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby chenghao » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:19 pm

use poker stove and put in his range ?
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby WSOPTH » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:39 pm

Froggy wrote:Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): $24.61
SB: $4.25
BB: $25.35
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $5.00
MP1: $16.86
MP2: $34.74
CO: $24.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with [Kc] [Jd]
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35) [3s] [Jh] [2h] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.85) [3c] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, MP1 raises to $7.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($19.85) [6c] (2 players)
MP1 bets $7.11 all in, Hero calls $7.11



villian limps EP, folded arnd to me so i make it $1 to go with KJ os, hoping to pick up the pot right there. flop comes and i hit TPGK, value bet.

villian check raises turn when 3 paired board but i didnt put him on a 3 because he limped & called a raise pre. I was only worried abt him hitting a small set like deuces.

called the river shove anyway cuz of his inconsistent behaviours + pot odds.
good call/bad call?

p.s. i'm acually looking for a maths genius so that i know my equity here.. e.g. % faced with busted flush draws, % i'm WA/WB. thanks!

wat did he have?
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby Deco_Lim » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:04 am

I supposed you lost the hand tt's why u posted this?
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby ikelos » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:55 pm

what stats was he playing?
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby Afternoon » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:58 pm

My Guess .......

Hero lose this hand to [As] [Ah] ... slow play .
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby Mydral » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:58 pm

1. Raise pre-flop to 1.25 (yes it does make a difference)

2. Bet flop higher, around 1.8$

3. If flop would have been played correctly (bet sizes make a big difference, trust me on this) its an easy fold on the turn. As played I would still fold.

4. River 100% fold, forget pot odds bla bla.. your mostly beat here.


Why fold turn? Well first of all villain does not make this play with a flush draw or anything worse then JA (and he is not holding this because of pre-flop action). Your like always beat. Plus villain will shove the river almost always.... so the turn counts as all-in regardless of river card. Too make this easier please bet higher on the flop, half pot bet is so weak especially with a FD out there.
The 55 cents more on the flop can save you most of your stack.
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby Froggy » Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:33 pm

villain was playing like 28/2 and always limp, then proceed to call my iso raise.

agree with 1.25 pre, i always do that now.
he had 9h8h for the busted flush, but it was a bad call on my part anyway
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby acehigh » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:49 am

most imptly u know that in the long run your strategy works
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Re: was it a right Call maths wise?

Postby melaos » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:50 am

ya that's what i thought,
he seems to be on a flush draw, hence the donkbet on the river to push you out of the flop.
but by then the bet is only about 1/3 the size of the flop. with TPTK, i think you would have to call.

i agree, if you wanted to see the equity calculation, prob you can use pokerstove and put his range vs yours.
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