Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

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Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby MJDNCH » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:14 pm

PokerStars Game #42398535490: Tournament #261136970, $0.25+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/04/09 15:04:34 AWST [2010/04/09 3:04:34 ET]
Table '261136970 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: alkopone71 (1910 in chips)
Seat 2: MJDNCH (1510 in chips)
Seat 3: MarSaNSK (1720 in chips)
Seat 4: BEN Tok 63 (2410 in chips)
Seat 5: hagen70 (3070 in chips)
Seat 6: westwego1241 (3080 in chips)
Seat 7: goods1976 (2880 in chips)
Seat 8: kamikase_77 (1380 in chips)
Seat 9: LarisaV (1420 in chips)
hagen70: posts small blind 15
westwego1241: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MJDNCH [Ks As]
goods1976: calls 30
kamikase_77: calls 30
LarisaV: folds
alkopone71: calls 30
MJDNCH: raises 90 to 120
MarSaNSK: folds
BEN Tok 63: folds
hagen70: folds
westwego1241: folds
goods1976: raises 2760 to 2880 and is all-in
kamikase_77: folds
alkopone71: folds
MJDNCH: calls 1390 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1370) returned to goods1976
*** FLOP *** [Jh 9c Ac]
*** TURN *** [Jh 9c Ac] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 9c Ac 4d] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
goods1976: shows [9d 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Aces)
MJDNCH: shows [Kc As] (three of a kind, Aces)
goods1976 collected 3125 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3125 | Rake 0
Board [Jh 9c Ac 4d Ad]
Seat 1: alkopone71 folded before Flop
Seat 2: MJDNCH showed [Kc As] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: MarSaNSK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BEN Tok 63 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hagen70 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: westwego1241 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: goods1976 showed [9d 9s] and won (3125) with a full house, Nines full of Aces
Seat 8: kamikase_77 folded before Flop
Seat 9: LarisaV folded before Flop (didn't bet)


I'm very sure that guy got a very wide range and he calls with practically any hand. He calls a previous all-in of 1.2k with a hand of 2c 4s and flop a straight. Guess i went a tilt and get cracked. :( As] [Ks]
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Re: Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby chenghao » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:03 pm

that guy probably is very loose pre flop , and tight post flop
meaning probably he can limp in with hands lik 4 T , but if the flop doesn't come 4 T K or T T A or T 3 2 and the likes of it ( at least top pair post flop ) , he probably would be folding , as you see 71% of the board on the flop , for the price of one round of betting , he isn't doing that bad.

besides his leading you on all streets , so not considered cracked.

PF leading (made hand vs best drawing hand )
flop set vs top pair
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Re: Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby AceKing » Sun May 30, 2010 1:52 am

Hmm, personally I would not play AK that way. The only advantage that AK has compared to AA and KK is that with AK, you won't get too committed. You can easily fold AK when the flop comes and it doesn't hit you. With that in mind, I seldom shove all in with AK. Even if the opponent who raise me all-in has the table image of being loose, I'm still not willing to gamble a large amount on a drawing hand pre-flop.

AK is an underdog against any pocket pair, but AK is preferred because it's much more bet-able post flop compared to pocket pairs. That's why I prefer to see the flop and try to extract more information from my opponent before pushing all-in with a drawing hand.



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Re: Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby Fangwui » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:46 am

On the contrary, the edge in holding AK lies in the fact that you're only really beaten by 2 hands preflop. You're in the lead against other broadways that you dominate AQ/AJ/KQ/KJ. Any pair 22-QQ is basically a flip, and ideally you would want to be the one to put your opponent at a decision for all his chips pre, as long as you are relatively sure that he does not hold KK/AA.

Against a solid opponent post flop, you're going to find it hard to extract value from 22 to QQ hands as long as an A or K hits the board. Of course you can choose to play AK less aggressively preflop, but I believe in most of the microstakes online cash
games/tourneys/sit n gos, playing AK aggressively pre is the way to go.

Just my two cents worth.
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Re: Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby Fangwui » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:49 am

And by the way OP, you did not go on tilt. Such things happen all the time, you just happened to be on the wrong end of a coin flip. At the $0.25 level, just stick the chips in pre with AK, and you'll be amazed by how much value you can get from the clowns calling off their chips with dominated hands.
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Re: Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby valkyr » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:39 pm

I am a sit and go player and believe me, everytime you are dealth AK in a micro make sure your chips are in the middle preflop Pre final table.
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Re: Bad Tilt and luck getting cracked open. [As] [Ks]

Postby xcaliblur » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:58 pm

That is not really the case of AK getting "cracked"~~ 99 is a slight favourite preflop anyways. If you said you had AA and it got cracked by 99 then yes it is understandable.

Still you did nothing wrong~ you put your money into a close to coinflip situation against a loose player who could well have a worse hand than 99. Just one of those things that happens in poker~ that guy suddenly had a hand =P
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