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Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby Afternoon » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:59 pm

Vincc wrote:Go play facebook lor..


"gaming" , with its grammatical variations and cognate expressions, means the playing of any game of chance or of mixed chance and skill for money or money’s worth;

Be inform Facebook chips can sell for money. (money worth)

Question 1

If you offer your place for people to play facebook poker, collect entance fee for rental of Computer Terminals, Chairs, Air-condition, Food & Drinks, is your place consider to be a common gaming house?
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby Afternoon » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:05 pm

Question 2

Is there any different between Poker and Baccarat ?
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby Afternoon » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:07 pm

Question 3

What is the similarity in Poker and Majong?
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby cianopher » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:28 pm

my views:

Q1) no it wouldnt be a common gaming house if you invite people (friends of course) like in a rarely occurrences. lets say 2x a month. rather than raked poker games 3-4x a week.

Q2) of course there is lah...one against players and one against house.

Q3) psychological warfare. :P
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby chenghao » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:43 pm

Afternoon wrote:
Vincc wrote:Go play facebook lor..


"gaming" , with its grammatical variations and cognate expressions, means the playing of any game of chance or of mixed chance and skill for money or money’s worth;

Be inform Facebook chips can sell for money. (money worth)

Question 1

If you offer your place for people to play facebook poker, collect entance fee for rental of Computer Terminals, Chairs, Air-condition, Food & Drinks, is your place consider to be a common gaming house?


Face book players compete for virtual chips and do not directly involve money , while its chips can be transacted for money it is not done in the nature of the game.

so if this activity were to be penalized , then gold farming in wow should be penalized given the same context , of "If you offer your place for people to play World of Warcraft, collect entance fee for rental of Computer Terminals, Chairs, Air-condition, Food & Drinks, your place would be considered a common gaming house"
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/ ... ethod=part
COMMON GAMING HOUSES ACT
(CHAPTER 49)

Interpretation.
2. —(1) In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires —

"common gaming house" includes any place kept or used for gaming to which the public or any class of the public has or may have access, and any place kept for habitual gaming, whether the public or any class of the public has or may have access thereto or not, and any place kept or used for the purpose of a public lottery whether the public has access thereto or not;

"gaming" , with its grammatical variations and cognate expressions, means the playing of any game of chance or of mixed chance and skill for money or money’s worth;

"instruments or appliances for gaming" includes all articles declared under subsection (4) to be instruments or appliances for gaming and all articles which are used in or for the purpose of gaming or a lottery.

"lottery" includes any game, method, device, scheme or competition whereby money or money’s worth is distributed or allotted in any manner depending upon or to be determined by chance or lot, whether the same is held, drawn, exercised or managed within or without Singapore;

"lottery ticket" includes any paper or figure or writing or symbol or other article whatsoever which either expressly or tacitly entitles or purports to entitle the holder or any other person to receive any money or money’s worth on the happening of any event or contingency connected with any public lottery;

"place" means any house, office, room or building and any place or spot, whether open or enclosed, and includes a ship, boat or other vessel, whether afloat or not, and any vehicle;

"public lottery" means a lottery to which the public or any class of the public has or may have access, and every lottery shall, until the contrary is proved, be deemed to be a public lottery;

"public place" means any place to which the public has or may have access and includes any estate, factory or place in which 10 or more persons are employed.

(2) For the purposes of this Act —

(a) a place in which lottery tickets are offered for sale, sold or distributed shall be deemed to be used for the purpose of a public lottery;

(b) a place shall be deemed to be used for a purpose if it is used for that purpose even on one occasion only;

(c) every person who demises or lets for hire a place shall be deemed the owner thereof

Afternoon wrote:Question 2

Is there any different between Poker and Baccarat ?


in texas poker there are 4 rounds of betting , barracrat only one

every game of baccarat is essential the same as the decision is made before the cards are dealt to side the banker or the player.It is strictly a game of chance, with no skill or strategy involved; each player's moves are forced by the cards the player is dealt

on the other hand texas poker you decide after you gain information from actions taken throughout the hand. skill is needed to piece together all the information and strategy is followed in decision to check/bet/raise/fold. Each player's moves are not forced and there is no fixed way of playing it

Afternoon wrote:Question 3

What is the similarity in Poker and Mahjong?


both involve skill and strategy with a minor element of luck
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby Afternoon » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:27 am

Afternoon wrote:Question 2

Is there any different between Poker and Baccarat ?


Baccarat, is gambling because it 100% depends on luck !

let say you have $1000, let you place bet 5 times, each $200, even your intention is to lose all the money but that is not up to you, you might end up with $2,000. Thats what we call luck or so call by "chance".

Poker, is not purely base on chance, is a mixture of skill, stamina, maths, strategies and off cause faction of luck involved like many sports.

Do sports also needs luck, not skill only meh ?? you may ask.

Football fans know, many time stronge team was beaten by weaker team.

Extreme example
Stronge team was superior in all department and control the match, possession 80%-20%, shot on target 20-0, but hit woods 4 times, blocked by goalie 4 times, blocked by weak team players 4 times, blocked by own players 2 times, goal line clearance 5 times and ball cross the line, lineman cockeye 1 time and last but not least strong team scored a own goal in injury time.

Final score 0-1, thats is bad luck.
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby poker_limit » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:23 pm

Let me copy some explantion from some where

In game of chance the participant cannot control the outcome. whether you intent is to win or lose the lottery, your odds remain the same,
But in poker, your actions can influence the outcome of a hand. You will absolutely lose if you choose to fold every single hands no matter what card you hold,
this is the difference between the game of chance and game of skill,

make it more easier to understand in game of chance after u bet ,u cannot decide to win or lose, but game of skill can!
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby Afternoon » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:44 pm

poker_limit wrote:Let me copy some explantion from some where

In game of chance the participant cannot control the outcome. whether you intent is to win or lose the lottery, your odds remain the same,
But in poker, your actions can influence the outcome of a hand. You will absolutely lose if you choose to fold every single hands no matter what card you hold,
this is the difference between the game of chance and game of skill,

make it more easier to understand in game of chance after u bet ,u cannot decide to win or lose, but game of skill can!


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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby watchalukin » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:10 pm

Similarity?

er....Luck plays a part in them? Just that one plays a HUGE role while in the other, it plays a smaller role?

In my humble view....Mahjong and Poker are quite diff...

MJ - You have to stay engage in the game regardless of wether you are interested in the game...cos if you dun, u might lose more.....
Poker - If you dont wanna play, jus fold lo...then u can do whatever you wan...haha

MJ - Once you are in the suai zone, you basically jus sit and pay $$ for the entire night....Its jus a bad luck night for MJ....and You know it...(Eg. I waiting for 1 4 7 bamboo....12 tiles...but end of game, no one played it....and when i flip thru the last 15 unopened tiles...8 were inside...wtf?? haha...the other 4? 2 each to act as eyes for the other 2 players....)
Poker - You may get bad beat here and there (as a prove of the suai-ness) but at least if you are skillful enough, you can outplay the opponent in the mind and win.....

MJ - No gd tiles, no need play liao, jus pay....
Poker - No gd hand, can still play, play well and might get paid off...

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Playing Poker = Gambling ?

Postby Afternoon » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:36 am

Question 4

Playing Poker = Gambling ??
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Re: Uncle Bob got questions to ask ?

Postby poker_limit » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:40 pm

Poker can be said is Gambling.... just like investing on share....... some TA investor.... invested with out fundamental just using a graph that can be treats as gambling.....
if u play poker without skill and just sit down hoping the luck to hit something.... then u r gambling.... if u playing poker and treat it as a investment ..... make a decision every hands find a most +EV...... then that is a Skill game
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