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seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby 5wd » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:29 pm

hi kakis,

i plan to take part in the ANZAC poker cup this sunday evening at the Crown casino in Melbourne and wanna get some tips from fellow kakis. for a start, i don't expect myself to cash-out and i have no idea what the structure will be like. except it's A$250 buy-in lar. : P i play, mainly because i want exposure and also to test my gameplan.

is the structure going to make a difference in the way one should play? i don't think it's deep stack and there is no mention of turbo or terminator or stuff like like. just old-school NLHE, i think.

this is my 3rd tournament but i figured this one's got a deeper field, seeing how many more cashgame tables the Crown has compared to say Skycity in AUC or Starcity in SYD.

my gameplan is to play tight, like a nun's c**t. : P and show up only solid hands meant to takedown the pots i am in.
i know i will be out-math'ed, out-classed and bullied by the pros and sharks, therefore i can only play honest and hit em hard like momma says! haha. of course, Plan A goes out the window if i am dealt crap hands and will bleed chips when the blinds go up. but there's really no Plan B coz like i mentioned, odds are against me coming out tops in terms of counting pot-odds, ev and "having the best of it".

so... any advice from you all seasoned kakis will be more than welcomed. there's still about 36hrs or so before the event. i have until then to relook at my gameplan. : P

thanks in advance hor.
btw, i am a sing-ka-por-lang... and i hope no aussies planning to play in the tournament is reading this!

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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby acehigh » Sun May 02, 2010 10:18 am

did your nun's c*** strategy work for u?

^^ :)
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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby xStephen » Sun May 02, 2010 1:27 pm

Do update us on how it goes.
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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby 5wd » Mon May 03, 2010 10:23 pm

I had to re-type this as I accidentally refreshed the screen and all was lost…. Lol

Anyhow, to repeat again. Since no one gave views, I pretty much stuck to the original gameplan.
That, I realized, was not the best strategy for tourney. At least not when the blinds were small.
I busted out @ 90th out of 117 entries. Lasted just under 2hrs.

In brief, how the night went…
Seated #6 at 10-handed table. 10k chipstack for start. First 2 levels, it was mainly #7,8 and 9 giving and taking action. i wasn’t getting lucky so no monster starting hands were dealt to me. That one time I was raising with 8s after the flop, I had to fold to the 4x re-raise by #8 (one big maori). I think he smells weakness and was having a go at me. He’s got chips as well.
By the time it was level 5 with ante at 100, I was short-stacked together with 2 others. Played one funny hand with #2 who was also short stack – he raises 1100 at cut-off, #3,4 folds to me, I threw out the chips intending to call with my 7s. dealer asked if I was re-raising but the chips dun seem to be enough. I clarified I meant to just call and I did not verbally said I was raising. However as the chips was 2200 exact, it counts as re-raise. All folds to #2. He calls. Flops came random. #2 c-bets 1100, I ship my chips for 1700 all-in. #2 was all-in with me on that. He shows 7o8o. turn and river were blanks. I took the pot, chip-count back to 8k. #2 told me he wanted to find out what I was re-raising him with and he just wanted to pinch my chips. I think the bottled champagne he was sipping from the bucket made him eager for action as he was quiet like me the earlier part.
The bulk of my chips went to #8 when he crushed my jj top-pair with set of 6s.
At 500/1000 blinds, my final hand was a 3500 all-in with AoQo. #7 called with AoKo and #9 was all-in with 8s. in the end, 8s were good.

Post-mortem:
For A$250, the lesson I take home is that I have to try another style for tourney and also pray to the lucky goddess for hands I can make moves with! LOL.
The fellas in Melbourne plays more aggressively compared to Auckland. At least for that table I was on at the Crown. I was thinking if I should have pushed back with some aggression in the early levels with hands like A-x or face cards. And since I didn’t have strong pairs in the first 2 levels, I wasn’t able to make any moves of that sort.


well well, i look forward to my next tourney where there's more lessons to be learnt.
and hopefully rws doesn't get too unrealistic with the buy-in amount when it decides to stage one soon.

in the meantime, i hope i haven't been too longwinded.

let's share share for the local scene alright.

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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby MJFX » Tue May 04, 2010 12:02 am

Thanks for sharing!
Hope this is a useful experience for you.

im new to these live poker tourney scene as well, i realise as i play more live tourneys, i will start to get the hang of it.

Sometimes have to be patient to catch the maniacs when they start throwing their chips around. sometimes have to take the initiative and take calculated risks, ocassionally taking a stand against bully. (of course with a good read and a good hand).. we always have strong hands unless proven otherwise.

Ironically, when i first started playing, i bought in direct for the APPT Macau last year, not knowing what to expect, i was able to build quite a monster chipstack by day 2, then slowly donk it away. When i slowly learnt the game, i realise i would never spend that silly money to buy in anymore. Strangely, i was also never able to build big stack in early stage of tourney. am much more patient now and waiting for good spots to play. So far, i enjoyed playing in manila the most. Im not sure why, the table i was at, they just sit back and let you be the table leader. You just feel so comfortable to take down pots after pots. But i was so silly, i have a read that villian have aces, i even said i think you had aces but i am going to call with my queens. Thats how my manila tourney ended last year. In a recent tourney in macau, i was able to fold pocket kings in a 3 way all in preflop, amazing how i was able to do that. Eventually it proves the right choice and it save my tourney and i won the satellite.

Personally i think its important to be observant and note tells.. and go on your reads.
Thats how im learning now.

Sorry, am no seasoned kaki to offer any solid advice but happy to share experience.
Appreciate your sharing too.
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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby chenghao » Tue May 04, 2010 12:25 am

Maybe you can dl pokerstars then watch their replays on how they play
the sunday 1/4 or sunday millions final table both are good examples of how the top tournament players play .

read up on some theories and keep improving
tournament and cash play the difference is in the blinds structure and the payouts.

so understanding the structure first is vital compared to cash game which is fixed.

http://www.sitandgoplanet.com/multitabl ... _Zone.html

M zone is how many orbits u can survive without being blinded off.

then your objective in cash games is just to take other people's stack
your objective in tournament is to take everyone's stack. ( while not losing yours)
can be sub divided into 2 1) in the money 2) win the 1st prize

if the buy in is a huge portion of your bankroll , your objective would tend towards 1) , if the payoff structure is like that of double or nothing tournaments , your objective would tend towards 1) too. For most other situation , your objective should tend towards 2) winning the 1st prize.

understanding what is your opponent's objective would be paramount to your overall strategy. cos in marginal cases , their objective could be the deciding factor on them putting the money in or tossing the cards away.

Online vs live tournaments

Online if you bust out , you can just register for another one , for live tournaments , you can only rail from the side so you must feel restrained when you are supposed to make a move knowing that might be your last and you would have nothing to do after that.
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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby 5wd » Tue May 04, 2010 10:22 pm

mucho gracias for taking time to share.
very interesting stuff you guys have there. i am learning for sure...

i am a casual player, doing low stakes cashgame friday and/or saturday nites with my friends.
tourneys with buy-in <$300 came about when i travel for work and there's time to kill. i figured it's a good way to get exposure on the go since there's none to be had back home. regional tourneys are just too cost-prohibitive in my view and i'm not that hardcore yet :P

i thought of signing up for some online sites and grinding out free slots to the live tourneys but my missus gonna kill me if she finds out i am playing online. LOL

so, here i am, getting some outside action only when there happens to be a card room in the city i am travelling to.
i just wish there's more legit tourney on our home soil with affordable buy-in, then maybe i can work towards objective #1. : )

btw, is the ability to compute pot odds and ev that crucial?
i am inclined towards banking on the "soft" aspect i.e. tells and gamesmanship.

your comments?

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Re: seek tips for ANZAC POKER CUP

Postby acehigh » Sat May 15, 2010 3:11 pm

thanks for sharing:)
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