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Postby Zeitgeist » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:52 am

dear fellow kakis. I am not very clear when identifying turbo and non-turbo LIVE tournaments. i would like to seek the collective wisdom of the kakis :D

so.. what is a good definition of a turbo and non-turbo live tournament?
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby pokerace » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:31 am

Turbo mainly chips is 300.Non turbo chips is 3000 in Full tilt.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby elctrbst » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:46 pm

imo the more turbo you play the more you are depending on luck than skill.

e.g: chao-ji hyper turbo 1cent buy-in on PS can begin with $50 blinds with $500 stack, you don't really have much time before you're gonna need to shove man - with no rebuy option, it's even worse. I feel that if you want to survive a turbo tourney, rebuy options are necessary.

Personally I'd prefer a good-o' regular $5-$10 1 table SnG , or cashgames.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby Zeitgeist » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:53 pm

thanks for the input so far!

but how does it translate into a live tournament?

would the coming tournament at leisure world be considered turbo? the starting stack is 100 bb and the levels would rise every 30 mins.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby elctrbst » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:22 am

That I won't be sure, but if you have played online SnG or tourneys you'd realize by "TURBO" they mean "high starting blinds" (5-10% of your starting chips) and they go up every 5 minutes... or less, since online games go alot faster, they can justify this super fast blind acceleration.

If Turbo applied to real life, that will be 1 blind raise every 1-2 hands, and I'm not sure how much time can players waste at the tables, unlike online you can literally waste time when your stack is large enough until the bubble pops
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby support » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:27 pm

From my experience.

Live Turbo in would be to blind up every 15mins or 30mins depending on chips. You will always have the nagging "so fast?" effect. Around 10 or less hands has been played.
A very good instance of live turbo is Genting Poker Tournaments.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby elctrbst » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:24 am

@support:

Then what's the typical starting stack size and starting blind/blinds progression in Genting?
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby Zeitgeist » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:39 pm

thanks for the input guys, it was very insightful.

i tried estimating at a cash game once. an orbit on a 9 handed table would roughly take 15 mins.

i guess 30mins levels would be about 18 hands +-? i guess its not exactly very turbo
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby support » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:18 pm

Zeitgeist wrote:thanks for the input guys, it was very insightful.

i tried estimating at a cash game once. an orbit on a 9 handed table would roughly take 15 mins.

i guess 30mins levels would be about 18 hands +-? i guess its not exactly very turbo


9 handed table orbit usual is about 30mins if there's action... and u have to shuffle/distribute... takes time.

@electrcbst

Everybody starts off with 1000 chips.
8 x 100 chip
20 x 10 chip

Blinds start off at 10/20. Level increase every 25mins.
You'll only be the button once in each level.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby Zeitgeist » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:50 am

hi support, seems that your info was more accurate. the dealer at the place where i was playing must be really quick.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby Zeitgeist » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:51 am

hi support, seems that your info is more accurate. the dealer at the place where i was playing must have been really quick.
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby chenghao » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:02 pm

Turbo is good for impatient players !
normal is good for patient players !
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby Brasstal » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:45 pm

Turbo online has more regs multitabling
Non Turbo online has more room for patient play and slow rising blinds

Live the Turbo tournys are those with missed blind levels and levels of 15mins? Depends a lot of starting stacks too because sometimes a "deep stack" event is a turbo event in disguised because the "deep stack" allows for normal play at least for the first 4-6 levels then crazy turbo behind.

Non Turbo are those with at least 30min blinds and above, stack and blind level permitting.

Good examples are the APPT Main event structures, the Red dragon structures, and I got to give the thumbs up to the MV Leisure Cruise Main event structure too. =)
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Re: turbo or not turbo?

Postby Zeitgeist » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:41 pm

thanks for the informative input, bryan, certainly well appreciated! MV leisure cruise main event was certainly a positive first time for me at a live tournament. [As] [Ah]
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