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Postby fairytanes » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:18 pm

PokerStars Game #56003316238: Tournament #329481514, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/01/16 12:09:23 CCT [2011/01/15 23:09:23 ET]
Table '350370322 912' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ItsEze (4380 in chips)
Seat 2: betforme (4860 in chips)
Seat 3: darkmoon23 (2460 in chips)
Seat 4: MasterSort1 (1440 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: 10sbabe (1605 in chips)
Seat 6: kokcnik (95 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: oneup888 (1860 in chips)
Seat 8: bigstack1313 (4275 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: dumaitan (1415 in chips)
ItsEze: posts small blind 15
betforme: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dumaitan [4d 3s]
darkmoon23: calls 30
MasterSort1: folds
10sbabe: folds
kokcnik: folds
oneup888: folds
bigstack1313: folds
dumaitan: raises 90 to 120
ItsEze: folds
betforme: calls 90
darkmoon23: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [3c 2c 3d]
betforme: checks
darkmoon23: checks
dumaitan: bets 120
betforme: raises 150 to 270
darkmoon23: folds
dumaitan: raises 150 to 420
betforme: raises 210 to 630
dumaitan: raises 210 to 840
betforme: calls 210
*** TURN *** [3c 2c 3d] [4s]
betforme: bets 720
dumaitan: calls 455 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (265) returned to betforme
*** RIVER *** [3c 2c 3d 4s] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
betforme: shows [9h 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Threes)
dumaitan: shows [4d 3s] (a full house, Threes full of Fours)
betforme collected 2965 from pot
dumaitan finished the tournament in 5045th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2965 | Rake 0
Board [3c 2c 3d 4s 9c]
Seat 1: ItsEze (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: betforme (big blind) showed [9h 9s] and won (2965) with a full house, Nines full of Threes
Seat 3: darkmoon23 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: MasterSort1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 10sbabe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: kokcnik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: oneup888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bigstack1313 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: dumaitan (button) showed [4d 3s] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Fours


can anyone tell me where went wrong. lol?
he had about 8-9% on the flop.did i make a wrong move here?
fyi: betforme is a tight aggresive player

appreciate your comments.
tq
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Postby Afternoon » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:16 pm

Is a standard play according to the cards. You cannot get away in this situation unless you chose to fold prefold over blinds stealing. Didn't you notice you are the short stack against 2 CLs?

Oh!...... sorry, I didn't see you ask only pro to comment, sorry...... sorry, I am not even amature but just a part time player , sorry .......... sorry.
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Postby eleester » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:45 pm

hey no hard feelings, but all i can say is you set the trap for your ownself when you are 2 3 offsuit, shortstack and you tried to steal the blind. You just got bad beat at the river. It happens all the time.
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Postby fairytanes » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:14 pm

hahaha... kanaassaaaiii.. laughing*

first of all, thanks for leaving your comment here so fast. and never expect a comment from pro star from genting.. salute. :D

cutting the crap.i need one more advice on playing this one. hope can get some comment from you still. kamsiah! it was over , but just want to get your opinion again


Full Tilt Poker Game #26851858034: Aussie Millions - Round 2 (208311740), Table 139 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:18:38 CCT - 2010/12/31 [06:18:38 ET - 2010/12/31]
Seat 1: SamLaga (5,140)
Seat 2: sheriffmoney (1,305), is sitting out
Seat 3: fertanx (5,905)
Seat 4: egole (1,020), is sitting out
Seat 5: marina281060 (12,670)
Seat 6: dirtyredd444 (9,855)
Seat 7: olivert (10,975)
Seat 8: chong80 (1,050), is sitting out
Seat 9: free bird34 (1,040), is sitting out
dirtyredd444 posts the small blind of 40
olivert posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fertanx [6d 2d]
chong80 folds
free bird34 folds
fertanx: lol
SamLaga folds
sheriffmoney folds
fertanx calls 80
egole folds
marina281060 folds
dirtyredd444 calls 40
olivert checks
*** FLOP *** [As 3h 5d]
dirtyredd444 has 15 seconds left to act
dirtyredd444 checks
olivert checks
fertanx bets 200
dirtyredd444 raises to 840
olivert folds
fertanx has 15 seconds left to act
fertanx calls 640
*** TURN *** [As 3h 5d] [3d]
dirtyredd444 bets 1,920
fertanx calls 1,920
*** RIVER *** [As 3h 5d 3d] [Jd]
dirtyredd444 checks


what should i do?
assuming he is a loose and very aggresive.

what is the best option. and what do you think he had?
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Re: Pro please leave your comment here

Postby fairytanes » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:18 pm

eleester wrote:hey no hard feelings, but all i can say is you set the trap for your ownself when you are 2 3 offsuit, shortstack and you tried to steal the blind. You just got bad beat at the river. It happens all the time.


it is not even 23os. its 43 os

i appreciate it ,when u want to post , better post something useful. not a donkey crap like this.
i thank you
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Postby eleester » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:10 pm

ok fine...my apologies. i type it wrongly. But can you not be hostile? U meant to say it's not a bad beat at the river? Maybe you feel I am not a pro so my comments are just "donkey crap". I thank you for your opinion then.
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Postby axel » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:29 pm

Hand 1: Why raise 34o vs a UTG limp? He's gonna call 99% of the time and your hand doesn't even flop well. You practically hit the nut on the flop, and nobody will fold an overpair in this level of buyin, so get all the money in. On the river, people hit a 2-outer on you, so be it.

Hand 2: I dunno about you, but I will fold this preflop, fold against the flop checkraise and fold vs the turn potsize bet. Since you die die want to draw with bad pot odds and somehow hit your backdoor flush after putting in half your stack, you might as well shove the river for slightly more than halfpot. He'll probably call you with an ace there anyway. Ask yourself, are you going to fold if you bet small on the river and villian checkraises you there?

I'm not a Pokerstars pro like Bryan and have never gone to Genting to play and win money in tournaments, so if you think I'm not qualified to comment, just ignore my post.
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Postby fairytanes » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:22 pm

eleester wrote:ok fine...my apologies. i type it wrongly. But can you not be hostile? U meant to say it's not a bad beat at the river? Maybe you feel I am not a pro so my comments are just "donkey crap". I thank you for your opinion then.


bro eleester..
im sorry after giving it a thought, its my fault. sorry for the word i used here. i somehow felt so emo when i read your comments earlier.

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Postby Afternoon » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:47 pm

fairytanes wrote:Full Tilt Poker Game #26851858034: Aussie Millions - Round 2 (208311740), Table 139 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:18:38 CCT - 2010/12/31 [06:18:38 ET - 2010/12/31]
Seat 1: SamLaga (5,140)
Seat 2: sheriffmoney (1,305), is sitting out
Seat 3: fertanx (5,905)
Seat 4: egole (1,020), is sitting out
Seat 5: marina281060 (12,670)
Seat 6: dirtyredd444 (9,855)
Seat 7: olivert (10,975)
Seat 8: chong80 (1,050), is sitting out
Seat 9: free bird34 (1,040), is sitting out
dirtyredd444 posts the small blind of 40
olivert posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fertanx [6d 2d]
chong80 folds
free bird34 folds
fertanx: lol
SamLaga folds
sheriffmoney folds
fertanx calls 80
egole folds
marina281060 folds
dirtyredd444 calls 40
olivert checks
*** FLOP *** [As 3h 5d]
dirtyredd444 has 15 seconds left to act
dirtyredd444 checks
olivert checks
fertanx bets 200
dirtyredd444 raises to 840
olivert folds
fertanx has 15 seconds left to act
fertanx calls 640
*** TURN *** [As 3h 5d] [3d]
dirtyredd444 bets 1,920
fertanx calls 1,920
*** RIVER *** [As 3h 5d 3d] [Jd]
dirtyredd444 checks

what should i do?
assuming he is a loose and very aggresive.
what is the best option. and what do you think he had?


i make a wild guess, dirtyred has [2s] [4s].
Put in half your remaining stack and most probably you woud get called from him.

Anyway i felt you have overplayed this hand and should have snap folded to heavy check raise from SB.
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Postby keldraco » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:50 am

so we should make a huge raise with a nut straight on the flop? hoping to get call by someone hitting the Ace? why did he check the river? fear of flush or full house?
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Postby fairytanes » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:28 pm

yes. agreed. i overplayed.
but i got lucky. i completed my flush.
by the book, i should have folded it on the flop.

he hand ace x.
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Postby Brasstal » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:32 pm

1st hand its a cooler flop for you but as the others said you chose to play 4 3 o/s what you expect to hit? that's as good as it gets.

2nd hand fold pre, why limp? Really poor play imo. Worse part is flatting the flop for a gutshot. The flop bet is fine because its a limped pot you're trying to semi bluff but you got raised. Calling to spike the gutshot with pot odds requiring at least 33% and your hand value there is 16%?

Turn you hit the flush draw gut shot you should just jam even without fold equity since you juiced up the pot the turn is a turn card from heaven. Instead of just calling.

Are you seriously asking a question like this here when you hit the flush on the river? Its a limped pot he could have anything but asking what you should do on the river is quite retarded imo.

Also the "emotional rage/rant" on eleester was super classless. I'm glad you apologized.

If you really want to work on your game stop playing 52/25.

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Postby eleester » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:24 pm

wow bryan...thanks for the stand up...appreciate it.. Was just giving my honest opinion on the hand. Anyway fairytanes, dun worry about it. Cool man! We are all here to learn from each other be it pros or non-pros.
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Postby axel » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:23 pm

lol premium PTR
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