What a call, GG

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What a call, GG

Postby felixleong » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:06 pm

PokerStars Game #64071488120: Tournament #427010776, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (3000/6000) - 2011/07/03 12:03:42 CCT [2011/07/03 0:03:42 ET]
Table '427010776 79' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: pipi486 (489528 in chips)
Seat 2: egosbar (553608 in chips)
Seat 3: sunny013 (459809 in chips)
Seat 4: Harmfulboy (718440 in chips)
Seat 5: Goggelo (130250 in chips)
Seat 6: iLemon (498365 in chips)
pipi486: posts the ante 600
egosbar: posts the ante 600
sunny013: posts the ante 600
Harmfulboy: posts the ante 600
Goggelo: posts the ante 600
iLemon: posts the ante 600
Harmfulboy: posts small blind 3000
Goggelo: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pipi486 [Tc Ac]
iLemon: raises 9000 to 15000
pipi486: calls 15000
egosbar: folds
sunny013: folds
Harmfulboy: raises 33000 to 48000
Goggelo: folds
iLemon: calls 33000
pipi486: calls 33000
*** FLOP *** [Qs 9h 5h]
Harmfulboy: checks
iLemon: checks
pipi486: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs 9h 5h] [2s]
Harmfulboy: checks
iLemon: checks
pipi486: bets 107520
Harmfulboy: calls 107520
iLemon: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qs 9h 5h 2s] [Qd]
Harmfulboy: checks
pipi486: bets 258047
Harmfulboy: calls 258047
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pipi486: shows [Tc Ac] (a pair of Queens)
Harmfulboy: shows [Ks Ah] (a pair of Queens - Ace+King kicker)
Harmfulboy collected 884734 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 884734 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 9h 5h 2s Qd]
Seat 1: pipi486 showed [Tc Ac] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: egosbar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sunny013 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Harmfulboy (small blind) showed [Ks Ah] and won (884734) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Goggelo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: iLemon folded on the Turn
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby eleester » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:35 pm

The interesting thing about this hand is how he called your 2 barrel bluff with a bluff of his own... You were trying to represent a queen and he didn't buy it.. Either he had a good read on you base on history or he really is psychic... lol... wat's your opinion felix? Would really like to know. lol...

@sevenhigh: Agree with your analysis.. more of a pocket pair then a queen... Maybe tat's why I am a fish...
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby 8ivan8 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:21 pm

Yo,

Your range is polarized there buddy.
Thats an easy call.
You should know that since u have been playing so long
Seriously.

Cheers

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Re: What a call, GG

Postby Sevenhigh » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:32 pm

@eleester how can he be repping a queen?
I think its a pretty okay call. You just flat the raise and the reraise PF. Prolly your range has all the weaker aces he dominates, middle pairs, KQ JQ KJ plus the occasional suited connector kind of hands
your flop check in position pretty much tells him you wont be showing up with a queen most of the time, with a Flush draw on board. The chance of an overpair also become smaller.
On the turn you could be betting many hands hes still ahead of IMO except some middle pairs and suited connectors that hit a pair, given that hes ahead a fair amount of the time and he still should have 6 live cards, his turn call seems fine too. On the river, the Q would look good to second pairish type of hands (middle pocket pairs etc) so i feel your bet there reps those kind of hands much more often then a queen. Hes also still ahead of a missed flush draw that you could have checked on the flop for deception, then bet turn after they check it to you again. Still pretty marginal on the river but i think he can make it if hes seen you show up with enough bluffs?
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby felixleong » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:47 pm

was playing very long and tired. I knew both of them were like A/x miss.. so I thought myself looked more like some sort of pocket pair.
Had been playing very loose and very aggressive from the bubble all the way till the final table.

Anyone who had a Q would had to bet the flop to avoid giving free card, i'm trying to say 22 or 55 with my river bet. lol ... confirm epic failed cause no one saw it this way hahahaha
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby felixleong » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:56 pm

How NOT to be HYPER AGGRO hahaha

PokerStars Game #64084184638: Tournament #407787518, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVI (2500/5000) - 2011/07/03 21:51:59 CCT [2011/07/03 9:51:59 ET]
Table '407787518 62' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Jobo22 (27190 in chips)
Seat 2: pipi486 (132290 in chips)
Seat 3: VOYCONASES (127676 in chips)
Seat 4: Lonefiz (188903 in chips)
Seat 5: Cheezer63 (59553 in chips)
Seat 6: golem950 (80762 in chips)
Seat 7: bad mo fo 75 (63308 in chips)
Seat 8: burble head (66009 in chips)
Seat 9: SergK1983 (31063 in chips)
Jobo22: posts the ante 625
pipi486: posts the ante 625
VOYCONASES: posts the ante 625
Lonefiz: posts the ante 625
Cheezer63: posts the ante 625
golem950: posts the ante 625
bad mo fo 75: posts the ante 625
burble head: posts the ante 625
SergK1983: posts the ante 625
Lonefiz: posts small blind 2500
Cheezer63: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pipi486 [2d Qc]
golem950: folds
bad mo fo 75: folds
burble head: folds
SergK1983: folds
Jobo22: folds
pipi486: raises 7500 to 12500 ( have lots of chips.. no need to respect, just raise and attack~!!!)
VOYCONASES: folds
Lonefiz: calls 10000
Cheezer63: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 3d 7c]
Lonefiz: bets 5000 ( weird OOP bet out... pot has like 25kish... damn small.. so looks weak to me.. feels like a draw)
pipi486: raises 22812 to 27812 ( a raise in order.. aggro aggro aggro is the key to winning)
Lonefiz: calls 22812
*** TURN *** [8d 3d 7c] [4s]
Cheezer63 said, "wooooooooo"
Lonefiz: checks
pipi486: bets 63874 ( 4 looks harmless... so i wanna continue my aggression with a 70% pot bet)
Cheezer63 said, "lets gooooooooooooooo"
Cheezer63 said, "eastgate?"
Lonefiz: calls 63874 ( man.. wtf does he has???)
*** RIVER *** [8d 3d 7c 4s] [Kh]
Cheezer63 said, "yep"
Lonefiz: bets 5000
pipi486: raises 22479 to 27479 and is all-in ( pot committed anyway... only way to win with Q high is to get him to fold..)
Lonefiz: calls 22479 ( good game )
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pipi486: shows [2d Qc] (high card King)
Lonefiz: shows [Ac Ks] (a pair of Kings)

when you can't get Ace high to fold on the flop and turn... LOL

Lonefiz collected 273955 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 273955 | Rake 0
Board [8d 3d 7c 4s Kh]
Seat 1: Jobo22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pipi486 showed [2d Qc] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: VOYCONASES (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Lonefiz (small blind) showed [Ac Ks] and won (273955) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: Cheezer63 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: golem950 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bad mo fo 75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: burble head folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SergK1983 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby MJFX » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:34 pm

8ivan8 wrote:Yo,

Your range is polarized there buddy.
Thats an easy call.
You should know that since u have been playing so long
Seriously.

Cheers

Ivan


I agree the hand is polarised but still hard to agree its an easy call.
At the river, its really hard to rep the nuts.
Looks more like a bluff but qn is what is bluffing with?
Only reasonable hands at this spot is busted flush/ straight draws, house deuces, pockets or total air. Villian probably rule out deuces (remote) and pockets ( showdown value)
Hence the call. So easy to analyse with hindsight.
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby MJFX » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:43 pm

But i would still think its a good bluff. I hate it when u can put him on Ace high but can never make him fold. Makes me tilt. There are better spots to call.
If i'm in the WPT booth "i probably say he know felix could be bluffing but he can't call with Ace high"
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby felixleong » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:59 pm

totally agree... I hate it in most when villian has Ace high and I raise flop, bet turn and river still cannot get him to lay down wahahahahah
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Re: What a call, GG

Postby axel » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:32 am

AK high is often good enough to bluffcatch, since most players won't turn a made hand into a bluff in position and check behind for whatever little showdown value they think they may have.
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