Aces? easy fold...

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Aces? easy fold...

Postby MJFX » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:02 am

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PokerStars Game #72096334997: Tournament #551010322, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2011/12/14 0:43:29 CCT [2011/12/13 11:43:29 ET]
Table '551010322 21' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Enigma84 (26042 in chips)
Seat 2: FreakYouOut (4027 in chips)
Seat 3: flip.h8er (18580 in chips)
Seat 4: anenstef (5790 in chips)
Seat 5: sandercvo (10980 in chips)
Seat 6: hellmouth07 (20302 in chips)
Seat 7: MJFX (19717 in chips)
Seat 8: janez1 (4575 in chips)
Seat 9: Bruno_RA (6841 in chips)
Enigma84: posts the ante 25
FreakYouOut: posts the ante 25
flip.h8er: posts the ante 25
anenstef: posts the ante 25
sandercvo: posts the ante 25
hellmouth07: posts the ante 25
MJFX: posts the ante 25
janez1: posts the ante 25
Bruno_RA: posts the ante 25
sandercvo: posts small blind 125
hellmouth07: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MJFX [Ah Ad]
MJFX: raises 375 to 625
janez1: folds
Bruno_RA: folds
Enigma84: folds
FreakYouOut: folds
flip.h8er: folds
anenstef: folds
sandercvo: folds
hellmouth07: calls 375
*** FLOP *** [5d 6d 2s]
hellmouth07: checks
MJFX: bets 816
hellmouth07: raises 1184 to 2000
MJFX: calls 1184
*** TURN *** [5d 6d 2s] [3d]
hellmouth07: checks
MJFX: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 6d 2s 3d] [5s]
hellmouth07: bets 4500
Uncalled bet (4500) returned to hellmouth07
hellmouth07 collected 5600 from pot
hellmouth07: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5600 | Rake 0
Board [5d 6d 2s 3d 5s]
Seat 1: Enigma84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: FreakYouOut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: flip.h8er folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: anenstef (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sandercvo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: hellmouth07 (big blind) collected (5600)
Seat 7: MJFX folded on the River
Seat 8: janez1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bruno_RA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Re: Aces? easy fold...

Postby tcs » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:09 am

Flush maybe? But respect.
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Re: Aces? easy fold...

Postby molaboy » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:23 am

i think villain is betting for value here most of the time.
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Re: Aces? easy fold...

Postby bluestallion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:22 am

I guess yr pre-flop is not strong enough ... he may put you as AK, AQ, AJ if he's bluffing ...

Villain's raise (>2x) on the flop could mean that he hit a set or straight if he's not bluffing ...

I don't think he has a flush ...

need to know his stats for further analysis ... if he likes to 3 bet or raise and is loose, i would 3bet him on the flop.

i wonder if 3betting his check-raise on the flop would help gauge his true position?

and would it be wise to bet on the turn to see what he does?
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Re: Aces? easy fold...

Postby MJFX » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:22 pm

villian is 13/8 over 77hands.
(at the point of this hand was 14/10 over 29 hands)
- he only called one pf raise which is mine and only raised flop 1/6.

i put in standard 2.5BB open from UTG, incidentally my 4 raise out of 5 hands. last hand someone played back at me, shove i open folded.
so AA at this point was god sent, happily open and villian called from BB.

If villian is semi-bluffing the flop -> turn basically he hits almost everything except 78.
i didnt bet, bcos i would hate myself if facing chk raise, im resigned to taking a freecard to the nutflush and snap fold the river if facing a decent
size bet.
im not sure what the rest think, but betting for information doesnt sound like a good logic to me.

if he have a hand like 56 or set -> explain why he check raise flop and check the turn.
river pair board -> basically i can only bluff catch a 78 here. hehe..

also, i assume most good players take a check call line with flush.
i saw in WSOP main event with 40 players to go, brazilian Laboda made a pot size bet with his 2nd nut flush when the board paired at the river. Giannetti with the boat made a huge raise all in and he tanked called.
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Re: Aces? easy fold...

Postby bluestallion » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:12 pm

hmmm...13/8 means participation is about 13% and raises pf 8% of the time? seems quite tight player...any 3bet data?

yr image based on the last 5 hands is perhaps considered loose?

if villain was a tight and aggressive player who knows how to play 3 and 4 bet, he may take advantage of your loose image.

if villain was a tight and aggressive player who doesn't like to re-raise, he may have a pair or AKs, AQs type hole cards to call your 2.5BB. do you think villain will likely call with 2d3d? prob not based on his stats i guess.

i guess villain check-raised flop to prevent chasing flush if he got set or straight? or if he's bluffing, to make you fold pretending he has set or straight?

he checked the turn coz maybe he's scared of the flush? what would happen if you bet half the pot here after villain checks? if he calls, meaning he has something or he doesn't believe you have a good hand to beat him. if he folds, he may be bluffing or cut loss if he thinks you have flush.

wah ... too cheem ... seldom have time to think so much when playing ... but now trying to learn to "think" to improve my game ...
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