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Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby ronshaks » Sat May 26, 2012 3:25 am

Talk about nonsense... really makes me wonder if PS isn't really all that rigged :(

Seat 1: ronshaks (1015 in chips)
Seat 2: bohni54 (1985 in chips)
bohni54: posts small blind 25
ronshaks: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronshaks [Js 9s]
bohni54: calls 25
ronshaks: raises 100 to 150
bohni54: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [Jh 7s 5c]
ronshaks: bets 150
bohni54: raises 250 to 400
ronshaks: raises 465 to 865 and is all-in
bohni54: calls 465
*** TURN *** [Jh 7s 5c] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 7s 5c 4c] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ronshaks: shows [Js 9s] (a pair of Jacks)
bohni54: shows [As 6h] (a straight, Three to Seven)
bohni54 collected 2030 from pot
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby ronshaks » Sat May 26, 2012 4:08 am

and again another nonsense...:

Seat 1: ronshaks (1300 in chips)
Seat 2: andreea_dani (1700 in chips)
andreea_dani: posts small blind 10
ronshaks: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronshaks [Kc Ac]
andreea_dani: raises 20 to 40
ronshaks: raises 80 to 120
andreea_dani: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [As 3d 7d]
ronshaks: bets 220
andreea_dani: calls 220
*** TURN *** [As 3d 7d] [7c]
ronshaks: bets 960 and is all-in
andreea_dani: calls 960
*** RIVER *** [As 3d 7d 7c] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ronshaks: shows [Kc Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
andreea_dani: shows [7h 9c] (three of a kind, Sevens)
andreea_dani collected 2600 from pot

Just tell me there's nothing fishy going on here???
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby jordon92 » Sat May 26, 2012 4:37 pm

PS is rigged, their random number generator is too damn "NOT RANDOM" at all. Against all odds, ur opponents can out turn / river ur best hand.
You only see that in like 1/100 chance that happen in live games.

Statistics are just crazy
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby iastate » Sun May 27, 2012 11:59 am

I don't know how one can know whether PS's random number generator is random enough. However, given that there are thousands of hands being played every second, it's totally not surprising to see or experience hands like what you mentioned above. As a matter of fact, if you play more live games, you will realize the occurrence of such hands is not that rare, even in just one session.
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby WhoIsSham » Sun May 27, 2012 11:20 pm

Yup true...even live session have this...i dun think ps is rigged...we say it out of anger... we play thousand of hands in ps thus, if this came up, we notice it...other hands we played we dun notice it as often...Juz sux it up... at times we also suck out on other...
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby valkyr » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:20 pm

jordon92 wrote:PS is rigged, their random number generator is too damn "NOT RANDOM" at all. Against all odds, ur opponents can out turn / river ur best hand.
You only see that in like 1/100 chance that happen in live games.

Statistics are just crazy


Board: Jh 7s 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 83.939% 83.94% 00.00% 831 0.00 { Js9s }
Hand 1: 16.061% 16.06% 00.00% 159 0.00 { As6h }

It happens 1 in 6 times to be exact. If it occurs 1/100 times in the cash game u go to then your cash game is probably rigged.
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby tcs » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:51 pm

aiya.. it always happens that way even in live game. runner runner straight happened to me against Mr N*O
hit top two pairs. he hit runner straight.

shit happens and move on.
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby EmissaryofTruth » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:25 pm

Those are beats that make you feel like shit ofc but it's not even a really massive beat. To be fair in the first hand you might as well ship rather than 3x with a 20BB stack OOP if you think he's gg to flat quite often. Second hand you can't do anything but the guy didn't play that badly either. If you were aggro enough you could have ATC in that spot and he has the best hand quite often. Then he turns the best hand. Not like he shipped with middle pair on the flop and you snapped and he turned it.
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby ronshaks » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:02 pm

just doesn't make cow sense at all.... first game... post flop, no runner for him, he reraises, i shoved and he calls????its more like nothing, nothing, runner, st8.... just tell me nothing's wrong here. and to top it off, he's not holding a giant stack either... hmmm
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby ronshaks » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:05 pm

second game maybe i can accept... some gundoo with ace high will shove post flop with nothing on board... russians love to do that apparently. and they've even called shove with higher board cards and even pairs while they're holding a small pair. somehow i think there's something wrong with their brain circuits...
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby EmissaryofTruth » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:15 am

I mean I do agree first hand is retarded but that's jokerstars. Once he raises flop he figures he may be priced in vs your range... or is just a retard. That's how you make money online though you need these kind of people around. Just take a gander at this hand:

PokerStars Hand #81758390122: Tournament #576010287, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2012/06/10 22:19:19 CCT [2012/06/10 10:19:19 ET]
Table '576010287 340' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mceved (3423 in chips)
Seat 2: 1973martin (2928 in chips)
Seat 3: yayachristo (7406 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: natalia20179 (2495 in chips)
Seat 5: Starbuck70 (6033 in chips)
Seat 6: JohnDoe2110 (21035 in chips)
Seat 7: YASvsAA (5317 in chips)
Seat 8: PreflopPush (5615 in chips)
Seat 9: Mirran2010 (2990 in chips)
mceved: posts the ante 10
1973martin: posts the ante 10
yayachristo: posts the ante 10
natalia20179: posts the ante 10
Starbuck70: posts the ante 10
JohnDoe2110: posts the ante 10
YASvsAA: posts the ante 10
PreflopPush: posts the ante 10
Mirran2010: posts the ante 10
yayachristo: posts small blind 40
natalia20179: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mirran2010 [Js As]
Starbuck70: folds
JohnDoe2110: raises 80 to 160
YASvsAA: folds
PreflopPush: folds
Mirran2010: calls 160
yayachristo has returned
mceved: calls 160
1973martin: folds
yayachristo: folds
natalia20179: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [5c 6s Jc]
natalia20179: checks
JohnDoe2110: checks
Mirran2010: bets 425
mceved: folds
natalia20179: folds
JohnDoe2110: calls 425
*** TURN *** [5c 6s Jc] [5h]
JohnDoe2110: checks
Mirran2010: bets 685
JohnDoe2110: calls 685
*** RIVER *** [5c 6s Jc 5h] [7h]
JohnDoe2110: bets 720
Mirran2010: calls 720
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JohnDoe2110: shows [9h 8s] (a straight, Five to Nine)
Mirran2010: mucks hand
JohnDoe2110 collected 4430 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4430 | Rake 0
Board [5c 6s Jc 5h 7h]
Seat 1: mceved folded on the Flop
Seat 2: 1973martin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: yayachristo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: natalia20179 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Starbuck70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: JohnDoe2110 showed [9h 8s] and won (4430) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 7: YASvsAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PreflopPush folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Mirran2010 mucked [Js As]

How could I fold river even though I had a very sick feeling? An early position raiser who checked a flop 4 way can't have QQ+, the action is retarded if he has a 5, and it looks very much like suited broadway that missed... or sometimes 66. The real truth was even more retarded. I was pretty steamed for awhile but figured I want to meet this guy alot in the future so... just keep telling yourself that in these situations.
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby ronshaks » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:37 pm

hmmm honestly, i think there's definitely something wrong somewhere... i mean with cards like those, its either you have access to the algorithm timing or super duper admin access that allows you to see up to the river.... just tell me its not rigged... and i'll tell you i'm god's answer to mankind.

but somehow, these garbage seems to be getting more frequent, especially since the spaniards were barred from ps's .com site.... can't help but wonder if ps isn't all that desperate to make up for the shortfall of having lost the us, portugal and now spain...
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Re: Tell me what nonsence this is???

Postby EmissaryofTruth » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:37 pm

I don't know I really don't think it's rigged. This nonsense happens alot but still if we have sufficient volume it will just seem like a lot but be proportionate to our total volume. Stars is still making alot of money and get audited quite frequently from a business standpoint I don't think it makes sense.
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